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If you live in FL, they cannot make you get rid of fish. Fish are legally considered furniture and are allowed in apartments. The only exception to this is, of course, including it in the lease. Get a copy of your lease and read the fine print. My complex went through last year and nailed everyone in the complex with a $250/day/animal fine, excluding fish (thank god, otherwise I'd be out about $4000 per day!). They allow fish tanks, but when they saw my 10 gal and 55 gal in the hall, along with the 34 I used to have in my room, they didn't like it. They "said" they limited the size of the allowable fish tank this year, but I read the lease.... no numbers included. They said, "A big tank is about... five gallons." I laughed out loud in their faces in the leasing office. Anyway, raise some hell! Especially if you live in FL!!
 
KYeasting;3397222; said:
If you live in FL, they cannot make you get rid of fish. Fish are legally considered furniture and are allowed in apartments. The only exception to this is, of course, including it in the lease. Get a copy of your lease and read the fine print. My complex went through last year and nailed everyone in the complex with a $250/day/animal fine, excluding fish (thank god, otherwise I'd be out about $4000 per day!). They allow fish tanks, but when they saw my 10 gal and 55 gal in the hall, along with the 34 I used to have in my room, they didn't like it. They "said" they limited the size of the allowable fish tank this year, but I read the lease.... no numbers included. They said, "A big tank is about... five gallons." I laughed out loud in their faces in the leasing office. Anyway, raise some hell! Especially if you live in FL!!

lolz, i DO live in FLA, and we are going to look at the lease just like you said, and i also have a friend who knows about all the wildlife laws, so ya, im gona keep you updated
 
Complete good for nothing #$%&:irked: So sorry for your loss dude:( What kind of turts were they? If you can find the site they were released on maybe you can still find they or trap them with a harmless trap;) This still early to call it "for ever loss"
 
Mampam;3394461; said:
i just moved into a new part of my appt complex for college, and i had to go home for a while as i also had to go to the daytona herp show

so while im at the show, i get a call from the appt complex, and they say pets are no longer allowed, wth???

so she tells me she could legally charge me 100+ for every animal i had in my appt, which was 10, so she asked when i got back, which was the next day..... and that yes i could take all my pets home then with no charge

so i come back to my appt, already pissed about the new rule, and to make things 100X worse......

my two turtles are gone....... they were on the porch in a big buck (almost 4ft) my roommate said he was gone when they took them.......

so i went to the front of the complex and she (one of the workers) told me they "threw them away" and i did NOT want to hear that, so i made her call the guy who took them, and he let them go in the retention pond next to my appt W.T.F.???!!!! (i wasnt told when i got the phone call, and it turns out it was done days before)

why the HELL are u gonna take something that u know NOTHING about, and just get rid of it??? when u said as soon as i got back i could take all my pets home????!!!!
i have NO IDEA why they did this......

me and a friend are supposed to go looking tonight, hopefully well find them sleeping by the shore......

ducking bass moles......... no wonder this appt has TERRIBLE reviews......

OMG where do you people live, even when my 180g tank split it's side my landlord didn't attempt to enter my apartment. Things to remember a signed lease is a Binding Contract. If it didn't state No Pets Allowed, when you signed it. And you weren't given at least thirty days written notice of said plans to change said rules, which should have required your signature and returned to the landlord. (Also note that if your building has a Tennant Board, the landlord would need to get his/her new rules passed the board first). Otherwise a Binding Contract without any type of notice becomes a broken contract, you won't need a lawyer in housing Court let the judges attorny or the judge be your lawyer.:nilly: Once yoou Win in housing and you will Win, provided everything is as clear cut as you stated here. Then you go file against them in Small Claims Court were you can sue for upto an including Five Grand ($5,000) in the USA that is.

Forget about looking for the most expensive Petshop around use your computer or get a friend to help you out, a receipt for C.B. Babies Turtles $250.00 ea, your last six months of food bills on the Turtles, plus the cost of the remaining food you have left over, any Vet bills. Cost of the pool used to house them, and then play the emotional card, you may not think it but judges listen to all this nonsense. Tell them how that unless you find the Turtles that you put so much time and monies into that you just don't think that you'll ever be able to keep another Pet Turtles again.;)


dirtyblacksocks;3395474; said:
What they did was illegal. Landlords are required to give Tenants 30 days written notice prior to enforcing any new rules, some times longer. That applies in every state across the board.

What they did is a misdemeanor at the least - usually landlord/tenant violations fetch around $500 in small claims court, along with the loser having to pay court fee's ect.

I would sue, you'll probably come out of it with around a grand.

Don't call the police - they'll look at you like you're crazy and tell you to take it to small claims court.

I would go to every pet store in the area and find the highest priced turtles identical to what you had - get a written invoice for their cost, and take it into court...

If they can't provide a statement that you've signed that includes a clause stating property in violation of the new rules will be seized, along with a date on it that is 30 days prior to the date your turtles were taken - they're screwed.

You shouldn't call the Police for several reason, first being it isn't an emergency, go to your local precinct an file a report if there's a reason for them to drop by, they'll send investigator around. Secondly, Don't call your local Fish and Game, or Animal Control or DEC people unless you know for sure that your Turtles and other animals are 100% legal in the State and County that your residing in. And that you have all required permits or licenses for said Pets you had. Because these State, City and County agencies will come down on you just as hard if not harder, if they find that you are in violation of there rules and regulations.:irked:


KYeasting;3397222; said:
If you live in FL, they cannot make you get rid of fish. Fish are legally considered furniture and are allowed in apartments. The only exception to this is, of course, including it in the lease. Get a copy of your lease and read the fine print. My complex went through last year and nailed everyone in the complex with a $250/day/animal fine, excluding fish (thank god, otherwise I'd be out about $4000 per day!). They allow fish tanks, but when they saw my 10 gal and 55 gal in the hall, along with the 34 I used to have in my room, they didn't like it. They "said" they limited the size of the allowable fish tank this year, but I read the lease.... no numbers included. They said, "A big tank is about... five gallons." I laughed out loud in their faces in the leasing office. Anyway, raise some hell! Especially if you live in FL!!

Just out of curiousity, did your landlord say how he/she was planning on collecting $250/day/animal fee? or how he/she would assets what you owed? The only way I could see someone's landlord changing rules about Pets is if those Pets are disturbing other tennants or if say your electric is included in your rent then having even 24 or so tanks would be cause to either remove them or raise the rent accordling.
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Just out of curiousity, did your landlord say how he/she was planning on collecting $250/day/animal fee? or how he/she would assets what you owed? The only way I could see someone's landlord changing rules about Pets is if those Pets are disturbing other tennants or if say your electric is included in your rent then having even 24 or so tanks would be cause to either remove them or raise the rent accordling.
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My place covers $40/month/person in electricity. They have a no pet policy and they mention the right to fine in the lease. I keep my tank immaculate, so I have no worries about them being upset about it. I'm not certain how they plan to collect, but I suspect it's more of a scare tactic.
 
KYeasting;3397997; said:
Just out of curiousity, did your landlord say how he/she was planning on collecting $250/day/animal fee? or how he/she would assets what you owed? The only way I could see someone's landlord changing rules about Pets is if those Pets are disturbing other tennants or if say your electric is included in your rent then having even 24 or so tanks would be cause to either remove them or raise the rent accordling.
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My place covers $40/month/person in electricity. They have a no pet policy and they mention the right to fine in the lease. I keep my tank immaculate, so I have no worries about them being upset about it. I'm not certain how they plan to collect, but I suspect it's more of a scare tactic.



I'm confused, Right to fine what? or should I say for what? If it isn't listed in the lease then there fining for?, because they didn't think to list it in the lease prior to signing?


Keeping your tank(s) immaculate or not, shouldn't be a concern for them as long as there aren't too many of them adding to the allotted electric for your unit, or too the allotted water usage for your unit. As long as there isn't some super sized monster tank(s) where they can say there could be a structural issue/safety concern. Which you should be able to counter simply by have a Structural Engineer Certify safe and sound. Maybe if you invest in a little apartment insurance encase of a leak, and show them they'll back off.


But it sounds more to me that there concern with you is, your using more than your fare share of the utilities that they pay for, remember they have too pay for water usage too. And they probably have some sort of metering either per unit or per group of units. If your like me when my 180g tank was up, I was doing 50~60 gallon water changes per week to ten days, plus all the regular stuff: Showers, Dishes, etc, etc,. In my lease it says noting about fish and I asked prior to signing, but it does say NO Dishwashers, NO Washing Machines Allowed. In Bold just like that.
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