Black Diamond... Black Diamond... Black Diamond

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Mark Huveneers

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Looking at the threads lately I get the feeling that everybody want's their ray to be a Black Diamond. It doesn't seem to matter that all the rays that are posted are not. I have seen LeoXHenlei, LeoXBD, LeoXLeopearl or other hybrid of origin unknown. Just check the amount of threads lately on this topic. It is a real hype, soon people will be posting pics of scobinas asking if they are Black Diamonds or not.

A Black Diamond Leopoldi has the following appearance:

- leopoldi bodyshape, tail with 3-4 rows of spines and a short round paddle
- the coloring is black and white, usually the base is blacker than a normal leopoldi, the spots are whiter.
- far greater number of spots than a traditional leo and two exra rows of revolving spots, one on the disk edge and one just off the edge, there can be a few spots inbetween these two solid rows
- the belly is covered in revolving white blotches
- the base color of the eyes is white with sqiggly dark lines on them, many white spots surround the eyes
- the two rear fins are covered in white spots, males have white spots on their claspers
- the growth rate seems to be slower than that of normal leos also the maximum size is said to be smaller.

This pretty much sums it up, if anyone has anything to add feel free.
 
Another Fad fish, when the the wilds start coming in strong, this fad fish will be forgotten.

The next thing will be "wild fish" "fresh wild fish" then the next month it will be something else, never ending.
 
i think its most of us just trying to get more info on BD's and some proof if BD's are a seperate breed, or if they "are or could be" a wild crossbreed....
 
funny that i just was about to post pics of one of my pup underside that i feel has a few bd traits note the parents are norm leo's i am not saying i have a bd just for the record just showing her off a little

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It is my opinion that BDs are nothing more then really really nice leos. Given enough time and breeding leos like Brents with other quality leos could result in the fabeled BD. Of course all just my opinion.
 
Mark Huveneers;2389627; said:
Looking at the threads lately I get the feeling that everybody want's their ray to be a Black Diamond. It doesn't seem to matter that all the rays that are posted are not. I have seen LeoXHenlei, LeoXBD, LeoXLeopearl or other hybrid of origin unknown. Just check the amount of threads lately on this topic. It is a real hype, soon people will be posting pics of scobinas asking if they are Black Diamonds or not.

A Black Diamond Leopoldi has the following appearance:

- leopoldi bodyshape, tail with 3-4 rows of spines and a short round paddle
- the coloring is black and white, usually the base is blacker than a normal leopoldi, the spots are whiter.
- far greater number of spots than a traditional leo and two exra rows of revolving spots, one on the disk edge and one just off the edge, there can be a few spots inbetween these two solid rows
- the belly is covered in revolving white blotches
- the base color of the eyes is white with sqiggly dark lines on them, many white spots surround the eyes
- the two rear fins are covered in white spots, males have white spots on their claspers
- the growth rate seems to be slower than that of normal leos also the maximum size is said to be smaller.

This pretty much sums it up, if anyone has anything to add feel free.

i have to agree i have seen many rays called black diamond which are not

the black is much blacker and the white much whiter when you put them side by side with a normal leo the BD will knock spots of the leo even at sizes of 4-5inch

i have also seen the spots on a BD continue into and over the tail spikes

what i have seen from all pure blood leos or any other type of ray is they may have figure 8 spots when young which will split as the ray grows with hybrids they have mad spots C or S shape

i know any ray can have diffrent shape spots but if the spots were not 8 shape i would tend to say hybrid

the belly spotting is not something a BD develops with age they are born with it

Bret your leo is nice but thats normal leo belly paturn :D
 
Bret your leo is nice but thats normal leo belly paturn :D[/quote]


:grinyes: i know
 
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