Black Ghost with ICH

[aidenboyjon]

so I am unsure or not if it is ich but there are 2 or three fine white dots on some of my ghosts. I went to my local lfs for medicine, but they gave me ヒコサンｚ. I am concerned because this lfs specializes in ancient fish and its where i got my two polypterus from. Well the medication they gave me after translating it when i got home says "do not use on ancient fish". Am I wrong and it's okay to use on my Black ghosts even though they are a scaleless ancient fish, or is my lfs crazy and has been poisoning his own fish? Side note any tips on medicaation I can aquire in japan for black ghosts? even if its through amazon.co.jp or possibly amazon.com the former before the latter. I am currently running the tank at 26*C as heat treatment. there are 3 baby spotted bushy plecos in the tnk as well.
Given this exp today with being sold dangerous medicine, i feel like im going to have to start specifying to people who know about fish that black ghosts are scaleless ancient fish...

 

[Caveden]

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[aidenboyjon]

you can clearly see a white dot at the top of the head here.
This is the largest one at about 5 inches. this one im worried about the most. Despite having a dot or two himself, although it is hard to see there is a thick white line, that lines his gill on the left side. I didnt notice it till now but that cannot be okay. the other thing i noticed is he is also occasionaly laying down, literally. he may be trying to itch himself indicating a parasite which i have prazipro for. Or maybe its something intwined with the white line around his left girll idk. but in general i am unsure of what i can do because its feeling like no one knows this fish here.

 

[..puSkar..]

the name of the medicine , after translating into english shows that it contains malachite green . dont use it for any fish without scales . espically for that bgk. just dont . btw that white spot dosent look like ich to me . but not sure what it is . for ich i first use salt ( in this case would use epsom salt and high temp) , the last resort for me is methylene blue.
more experienced members will help.
duanes kno4te tlindsey

 

[aidenboyjon]

the name of the medicine , after translating into english shows that it contains malachite green . dont use it for any fish without scales . espically for that bgk. just dont . btw that white spot dosent look like ich to me . but not sure what it is . for ich i first use salt ( in this case would use epsom salt and high temp) , the last resort for me is methylene blue.
more experienced members will help.
duanes kno4te tlindsey

Any recommendations with methalyte blue in it? also qny idea what that white line is? or the laying down? at first i though he died but then he started moving again. scared me . salt is okay? I read salt is bad for scaleless as well though. atm though i do have the temp up to 26 so thats at least something...

 

[0wen_96]

or the laying down? at first i though he died but then he started moving again. scared me .

pretty sure that's just normal bgk sleeping habits correct me if I'm wrong tho.

 

[aidenboyjon]

pretty sure that's just normal bgk sleeping habits correct me if I'm wrong tho.

its just scary cus as far as ive seen hes thr only one who does it.

 

[..puSkar..]

Yeah black ghost sleep laying on their sides, like they're dead but they're completely fine. It's table salt (sodium chloride) that is harmful for scaleless fish. Epsom salt ( magnesium sulphate) is not harmful . I use epsom salt be it any fish. You can search the net for epsom salt, I don't think it will cause harm.

 

[aidenboyjon]

ill check it out ty

 

[Fishman Dave]

First I’ve heard of Epsom salt for ich.
Epsom salt is more for balance and digestion. Ich treatment is aquarium salt ie a small increase in salinity towards brackish although for ich raising the temperature to mid eighties often does the trick itself, after what at first looks like a flurry of dots.
You CAN use malachite green to treat scaleless fish but you have to use it at a much reduced dose. As little as 25-50 % of the stated dosage.
All that said, a healthy, happy fish can often fend off a mild dose of ich itself, so often best not to worry too soon if you see the odd white as spot.
I would not automatically think ich, I must treat it, IF yours was, and I also am not sure it is.