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Not only that but you lose the "buffering" capacity of the aragonite sand...although I personally think that this is overrated anyways.

My friend didnt just get diatoms on the sand, it literally covered his rocks and glass and smothered corals.

It was the worst diatom action I have ever seen, and you know me, I made him wash this sand very carefully before adding it to the tank.

Who knows...but that link above just gave me flashbacks to trying to help him clean that thing out weekly and what a PIA (pacific island aquatics) it was. :D
 
FLESHY;5046027; said:
Not only that but you lose the "buffering" capacity of the aragonite sand...although I personally think that this is overrated anyways.

My friend didnt just get diatoms on the sand, it literally covered his rocks and glass and smothered corals.

It was the worst diatom action I have ever seen, and you know me, I made him wash this sand very carefully before adding it to the tank.

Who knows...but that link above just gave me flashbacks to trying to help him clean that thing out weekly and what a PIA (pacific island aquatics) it was. :D

Odd I never knew diatoms could come back after the initial cycle of it. Ever try cleaning cyano? Now that stuff was BAD when I had it
 
TacomaMan;5045978; said:
toss us a link to that thread so we can catch it out! how is it going so far in day two of the sand?

clean, clear and love it. the other thread is labled how to "thin you stock...by mr deerp"

FLESHY;5046027; said:
Not only that but you lose the "buffering" capacity of the aragonite sand...although I personally think that this is overrated anyways.

My friend didnt just get diatoms on the sand, it literally covered his rocks and glass and smothered corals.

It was the worst diatom action I have ever seen, and you know me, I made him wash this sand very carefully before adding it to the tank.

Who knows...but that link above just gave me flashbacks to trying to help him clean that thing out weekly and what a PIA (pacific island aquatics) it was. :D

i have alot of diatoms with the other sand so we'll see if it gets worse. i also say that buffering is over rated. the fish will get use to your ph and be fine.

shua71;5046372; said:
Odd I never knew diatoms could come back after the initial cycle of it. Ever try cleaning cyano? Now that stuff was BAD when I had it

diatoms come back with every wc. even if you scrape them off they don't go away, they just become free floating to redistribute elseware. unless you remove them from the scraper without losing any.
 
shua71;5046372; said:
Odd I never knew diatoms could come back after the initial cycle of it. Ever try cleaning cyano? Now that stuff was BAD when I had it

As it turns out, after nine years in the hobby, if you can get it, I have pretty much had it algae wise. Both good and bad. Cyano is a foe I have battled in reefs, and in planted tanks, where I actually think it might be harder to deal with.

See my notes on diatoms below.

sbuse;5047227; said:
i have alot of diatoms with the other sand so we'll see if it gets worse. i also say that buffering is over rated. the fish will get use to your ph and be fine.

The issue here is that you get diatoms on aragonite sand because there is dust (silicates) in your sand. You get diatoms on this sand because your sand is silicate.

I think it is overrated because in order for calcium carbonate to dissolve the water needs to be at a pH of 6.4 or less...therefore that should never happen in a reef tank to begin with.
 
FLESHY;5048205; said:
As it turns out, after nine years in the hobby, if you can get it, I have pretty much had it algae wise. Both good and bad. Cyano is a foe I have battled in reefs, and in planted tanks, where I actually think it might be harder to deal with.

See my notes on diatoms below.



The issue here is that you get diatoms on aragonite sand because there is dust (silicates) in your sand. You get diatoms on this sand because your sand is silicate.

I think it is overrated because in order for calcium carbonate to dissolve the water needs to be at a pH of 6.4 or less...therefore that should never happen in a reef tank to begin with.

i see what you are saying. i just have a diatom problem in all my tanks dont mater if it has a bare glass botom or sand or river rocks, both my fresh and salt tanks. i think that my tap is the main cause of it all.

i didn't know the tecnical buffing deal. i just know that all fish need a stayble environment and if you are constanly buffing the ph is constantly changing. this inter makes the tank unstable in terms of ph vs. if you were to leave it at your base ph it would be stable.
 
sbuse;5048846; said:
i see what you are saying. i just have a diatom problem in all my tanks dont mater if it has a bare glass botom or sand or river rocks, both my fresh and salt tanks. i think that my tap is the main cause of it all.

i didn't know the tecnical buffing deal. i just know that all fish need a stayble environment and if you are constanly buffing the ph is constantly changing. this inter makes the tank unstable in terms of ph vs. if you were to leave it at your base ph it would be stable.

Where do you live at? I'm second worse in the nation currently and have no algae issues from my water
 
sbuse;5048846; said:
i just have a diatom problem in all my tanks .

maybe its not the water...if your on city water, than everyone in your area should have that problem;this includes LFS. if your on a well, then I dont see why you would have a problem. Well water is USUALLY pretty ok in my experiences
 
shua71;5049549; said:
Where do you live at? I'm second worse in the nation currently and have no algae issues from my water

i am in st. paul, mn

TacomaMan;5050309; said:
maybe its not the water...if your on city water, than everyone in your area should have that problem;this includes LFS. if your on a well, then I dont see why you would have a problem. Well water is USUALLY pretty ok in my experiences

city water everyone i know with a tank around me has the same problems.
 
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