Boat damaged in anti-whaling clash in Antarctica (sea shepherd at it again)

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Originally Posted by knifegill
Again, red tape and half-enforced laws have failed. Now is the time to intervene.
You, my friend, are a speciesist.
How is it not terrorism? You think these animals enjoy being chased and stabbed and dragged around bleeding and flopping in pain? Please, do explain all of the terror they aren't experiencing during their unjust and merciless slaughter. Was slavery okay? Was eradication of the jews a good idea?Last time i checked Africans and Jews were not wales , u cant compare people to animals no matter how much u love them,One cant encourage terrorism for one species and not for all ,Im sure u ureself have benefited from many atrocious acts committed on animals yet prob wont stop benefiting from them anytime soon .. , What about those pesky wolves? Kill 'em all, right? And here we stand, forever guilty for what we have done,We is too much last time i checked i haven't harpoon a whale , shot a wolf or skinned an animal for its fur.. You can sit all day in your voting booth with your bank account full and talk about who should do what and why you filled out this form and pushed this button or that button. You aren't helping.Plz some of us dont have a bank account full of cash , the money i do make goes to my family and thats all , sorry i dont make enough to save the whales. I'm not helping. They are still dying. You can't counter their legal and/or illegal fishing with pens and laws. The real heroes are those with resources who use them. If I had some money I'd be such a justice ninja! If somebody wires me the money, I'll do it. I'm done with college in just under two years. Then I'll have just a little time for job hunting or avenging whales, whichever comes first.Enjoy ure long prison term when u do , terrorism begets terrorism.



Well, I'll answer the parts I can understand. 'You can't compare people to animals' sounds a lot like many hate mottos. You choose to discriminate based on a difference. Animals are entities much like ourselves who feel pain, can be abused and should not be subject to our murderous whims based on their physical form. You are being speciesist.

What is jail time to stop death? It's like I'm talking to a wall, here. Creatures are experiencing agony and potentially, eventual extinction and shrinking genepools. You'd keep 100 dogs in a kennel for a year to preserve your own life, wouldn't you? Then how is it different to do time one's self for saving another life? This, again, boils down to the fact that you hold yourself as more important than the animal. This is called discrimination. One day, we will have to atone for this tragedy, too.

Terrorism begets terrorism? This is about animal rights more than terrorism.

 
look everyone keep it civil or this will be closed this is a good thread so far and lets keep it that way. if some of you have totally different opinions state them and leave it be. don't act like third graders.
 
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knifegill;3767411; said:
Again, red tape and half-enforced laws have failed. Now is the time to intervene.
You, my friend, are a speciesist.
How is it not terrorism? You think these animals enjoy being chased and stabbed and dragged around bleeding and flopping in pain? Please, do explain all of the terror they aren't experiencing during their unjust and merciless slaughter. Was slavery okay? Was eradication of the jews a good idea? What about those pesky wolves? Kill 'em all, right? And here we stand, forever guilty for what we have done. You can sit all day in your voting booth with your bank account full and talk about who should do what and why you filled out this form and pushed this button or that button. You aren't helping. I'm not helping. They are still dying. You can't counter their legal and/or illegal fishing with pens and laws. The real heroes are those with resources who use them. If I had some money I'd be such a justice ninja! If somebody wires me the money, I'll do it. I'm done with college in just under two years. Then I'll have just a little time for job hunting or avenging whales, whichever comes first.


so you want to be batman?
 
what really needs to happen is convince the japanese to move from a whaling industry to a whale-watching industry. in iceland, if they were to switch from their $4 million annual whaling industry to a whale-watching industry, their annual revenue from this industry could be $58.3 million. the price of whale meat in japan has halved in the past few years. the japanese whaling industry has become less and less economically viable to the point where the government is subsidizing the industry.

amendments must also be made to the 1987 IWC Whaling Moratorium. the tainted meat obtained from the whales should not be allowed to be sold for consumption. lethal research should also not be allowed. In my opinion, the IWC is a complete joke, many of the smaller countries are uninformed of even what cetaceans inhabit their waters. these small countries are also 'bought' by japan to be on their side.
 
seen these vids b4 , unfortunately the whales do suffer horrid deaths i dont deny that , but so do beef,pork and many others . where are the people who suggest attacking meat packers ?? prob the same mentality as the extreme pro life people.for sure im against the japanese and any others who do these horrid things but when people suggest violence to stop them it will just worsen things.
 
knifegill;3767053; said:
This is one of those situations where it's really easy to say some people should die. There aren't many. Child rape is one. Beating up old people would be another. This is right up there.


I think that if you ever have the misfortune of having to kill someone you would revise your statement.
 
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