Boxing: Pacquiao vs Margarito

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chrscap;4626623; said:
Pacman agreed to do the drug test for Mayweather, soon after the agreement, Mayweather back out LOL. 50/50 that fight will happen, Mayweather will wait for the right opportunity (When many is near the end of his prime = chicken ****)


LOL why you making excuses? If he beats him it's fair and square.
 
Brian_Indiana;4626519; said:
He just wants to protect his undefeated record. If you believe you are the best, you want to prove it against the best. IMO, Mayweather is just making excuses for ducking PacMan. Has PacMan failed a test? Just b/c someone is better than you, it doesn't make them a cheater.

Yeah...and barry bonds is the greatest home run hitter of all time? Roger Clemen is a great pitcher too? Cheating cyclists are great too? Same with track stars? lol, everyone wants to be compared apple to apple, not apple to roid monkey

chrscap;4626623; said:
Pacman agreed to do the drug test for Mayweather, soon after the agreement, Mayweather back out LOL. 50/50 that fight will happen, Mayweather will wait for the right opportunity (When many is near the end of his prime = chicken ****)


When was this? I don't recall manny agreeing to the olympic style testing (meaning randomly before and after the fight, boxing only does 30 days prior to the fight, he wants to agree on 24 days). i seem to recall manny filing a lawsuit over slander over the whole thing. Pretty simple, if you're clean, do the same testing that they use in the olympics and then beat the black off mayweather. If it's good enough for the olympics, then why isn't it good enough for one match in your career? There's a reason why the man insists on blood tests only 24+ days before his fight. one can only wonder why.
 
ballinouttacntrol;4628748; said:
When was this? I don't recall manny agreeing to the olympic style testing (meaning randomly before and after the fight, boxing only does 30 days prior to the fight, he wants to agree on 24 days). i seem to recall manny filing a lawsuit over slander over the whole thing. Pretty simple, if you're clean, do the same testing that they use in the olympics and then beat the black off mayweather. If it's good enough for the olympics, then why isn't it good enough for one match in your career? There's a reason why the man insists on blood tests only 24+ days before his fight. one can only wonder why.

this is my problem with floyd
1. he's all about the money yet he can turn down a $40+ million dollar paycheck
2. he stated when coming out of retirement, he felt Juan Manuel Marquez was the #1 pfp fighter and not pacman, if that was the case, and you felt JMM was that good, why did he not have JMM take the tests?
3. he asked for olympic style testing ONLY when he became obligated to fight pacman, he never cared about "cleaning up the sport of boxing" before nor has he EVER mentioned he felt the sport of boxing is dirty in that way.
4. Floyd is not the state athletic commission. there is an athletic commision in place for that reason. let them do their job and use drug testings they see fit like they have for years and years. Manny is not obligated to take any tests outside of what the athletic commission requires
5. He's also said that beating pacman will be easier than beating JMM. ok, so if you feel that way, why the need to demand the olympic style testing?

and yes, pacman has accepted mayweather's original olympic style drug testing that he demanded in their first try at negotiations which is random drug testing up to 14 days prior to fight day and 50/50 purse split. and yes, manny filed a lawsuit of defamation of character which he will win. you can't just make public statements of someone just because you think they are guilty of something. they talked all this crap and made all this accusations with no evidence whatsoever. it just can't be true that someone just may be that talented, therefore it has to be steroid usage. :screwy: which i can understand, but what they did and have said is overboard and deserve to be sued

after beating mosely, mayweather says that now he wants the testing up to the day of the fight and he wants more than 50/50. He may want 60/40 or 70/30

and I believe it was 18 days out that ended up being the last test they gave mosely and mayweather

in my opinion,
1. mayweather doesn't want to fight pacman or
2. he's waiting for pacman to slow down before fighting him which is what sugar ray leonard did when he fought marvelous marvin haglar or
3. he's purposely starting all this contraversy to hype the fight even further and finally hoping to get a huge, huge paycheck in the end when they finally fight

i hope it's #3
 
i get where you're coming from, i'm not necessarly a mayweather fan either, i just don't get why i would demand for derek jeter to take a test when i think barry bonds is cheating? why demand jmm take tests when i'm not suspicious of him? cleaning up the sport is a far cry from "i think this person is cheating, let's find out the truth behind it".

i think we can all agree that it's a shame that this fight will never happen for WHATEVER reason. Too many fighters like to duck people until they feel the time is right, weither it's mma or boxing
 
ballinouttacntrol;4628950; said:
i get where you're coming from, i'm not necessarly a mayweather fan either, i just don't get why i would demand for derek jeter to take a test when i think barry bonds is cheating? why demand jmm take tests when i'm not suspicious of him? cleaning up the sport is a far cry from "i think this person is cheating, let's find out the truth behind it".

i think we can all agree that it's a shame that this fight will never happen for WHATEVER reason. Too many fighters like to duck people until they feel the time is right, weither it's mma or boxing

"cleaning up boxing" is not what I said. Floyd said that which is why I have a problem with it. it seems he only wanted to clean it up once obligated to fight pac. since demanding it from Manny, he will now demand it from every fighter he faces from now on. of course he has to now, if he ever fought anyone without asking for the extra testing, it'll look like he ducked pacman, but he already made it look like he is ducking regardless

it is a damn shame this fight won't happen, i am still hopeful but i'm over it also

I personally blame floyd though and not manny if this fight never happened
 
svang55;4628969; said:
"cleaning up boxing" is not what I said. Floyd said that

it is a damn shame this fight won't happen, i am still hopeful but i'm over it also

I personally blame floyd though and not manny if this fight never happened

Dude, he ran out of excuses to fight Manny that he ends up beating on his girl...
 
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