Breeding ball pythons

[reptilerancher]

The reason I ask is some people keep them together all year not knowing they are known canables.
You can double breed but try not to make a habit of it it's not good for the snakes.
What are the morphs your working with? Got any pics

 

[brittneyelz]

Yea I have read that about snakes. And yea I wouldn't want to double breed but I just wanted to get things going. Right now she is bigger than her weight before breeding season last time so that is what makes me think it was alright to breed. They are actually locked right now surprisingly 2 hours in. She is a bumblebee and male is a pastel calico.

 

[Frank Castle]

so i had a few questions i figured i would start here until i get into the other bp forums but i was looking for some guidance into breeding some bp. so i bought some adults that are proven breeders and i know the season already started however, i was wondering since my female last laid eggs is September would i be able to start the breeding process now? the breeder that i bought her from always kept the temps the same at 88 however im trying to bring it down a little to set the mood. i dont know if im over thinking it but is it pointless to try and start now? i know some people breed year round but then again its all about the snakes cycle. so i guess my question is if she had eggs in sept when do i start the breeding process? im obviously a beginner to this i just want to make sure that im doing things perfectly for my snakes. i also keep my snakes in tanks rather than racks would this cause issues? what is the ideal temp from what i read it varies alot. any and all help/pointers would be greatly appreciated!!

Don't breed her this year if she had eggs in September.....it's too much on her body. Feed her and bulk her up. Put her in a deli cup on a kitchen scale tared is Grams and make sure she is always at least 1600 grams, but better off breeding her 1800+. Wait until Sept-Oct of 2016 to breed her again. She needs to get nutrients back into her body and fatten up.

Tanks don't hold heat as well as RUBs, but as long as you can accurately maintain a minimum of 75F, NO LESS - 74F is respiratory infection. Dropping the temps to 75F either nightly or 24/7 until they begin locking together will tell them it's time to breed. We generally like them to lock-up together 6-10 times before we are comfortable saying "Ok, I think it took".

That's for starters. many people feel Boas and Pythons should only be bred every other year....a good 18 months of recovery between "pregnancy"

my recommendation is to fallow the dates and I wouldn't double breed in a year. its just not the most healthy for the female.

^^^^^^THIS +100

Last batch was 5 eggs

she was bred WAY too small if she's only producing 5 eggs at 2500 grams. I had 1600-1800 grammers dropping 6-8 eggs

 

[brittneyelz]

Yes I know. She is 2500g which is bigger than she was before she started breeding last season. Since I already started the process and they have hooked I can't just end it. After this breeding process I plan on giving her alot of time off

 

[Frank Castle]

my recommendation is to fallow the dates and I wouldn't double breed in a year. its just not the most healthy for the female.

Last batch was 5 eggs

Yes I know. She is 2500g which is bigger than she was before she started breeding last season. Since I already started the process and they have hooked I can't just end it. After this breeding process I plan on giving her alot of time off

you absolutely can stop putting them together, nothing is stopping you. Probably better for her. Why would you breed her again after only a small 4 month recovery? You said she just bred in Sept. She shouldn't be bred every year IMO, period.......but even much more because she was bred too small. Very poor decision breeding her again. Her size is quite healthy, but don't be surprised if a large portion of the eggs are either slugs or just don't live through the incubation.

 

[reptilerancher]

nice balls (childish joke out of the way) you should be fine just stick to the dates that work for you and the snakes. give her a year or 2 off after this breeding and she will be just fine. after a brake she will probably even have bigger and more eggs when she breeds.

also just a quick speech you should make sure you are breeding for the right reasons not for money but the love of the animal and to spread you passion to other responsible care takers.

with that said I wish the best of luck to you.

Frank Castle lay off, I agree she probably shouldn't breed at less then 1500g but she is a 1000g more then the small side of Breeding. so one year of rebreeding will be fine just as long as this doesn't become a yearly thing the snake will be healthy.

 

[brittneyelz]

Thanks for that. I can't wait until late my pastel lesser is up to.size to breed =) and as for her being small she was never under the breeding weight. And she is still going to have the eggs at the year mark which I heard is alright I under stand it's soon and shouldn't be done so.often but like I said this isn't going to.be a reaccurance. Why would a majority of the eggs be slugs and not survive? If her weight is up to par isn't that what counts? And I love my animals that's why we keep them all in tanks.instead of tubs. I feel to guilty having them in tubs even if they have been in tubs all there life. I have two regular balls because I just took them.in/ rescued them. I have a big heart as does my whole family (husband, kids ect) snakes are my son's favorite thing. My dogs are rescues my cats are rescues I love helping animals and people.who need it. Of its a passion I can do as I stay home all days most days and make some money doing it it will make it even more fun from whag I read some people only.give there snakes 4 months of.down time to fatten them up for breeding season again. After this my female will.be done for a while

 

[reptilerancher]

as far to Why a majority of the eggs be slugs and not survive? this has been seen with over breeding but it is much more common when the females are getting old.

and to answer your question "If her weight is up to par isn't that what counts?" this isn't necessarily true the weight is important for both making eggs and as an indicator for the health of the animal. over breeding can make the reproductive system weak and can lead to complications in later on breeding efforts.

Frank Castle have you ever kept/bred BP's

 

[Frank Castle]

nice balls (childish joke out of the way) you should be fine just stick to the dates that work for you and the snakes. give her a year or 2 off after this breeding and she will be just fine. after a brake she will probably even have bigger and more eggs when she breeds.

also just a quick speech you should make sure you are breeding for the right reasons not for money but the love of the animal and to spread you passion to other responsible care takers.

with that said I wish the best of luck to you.

Frank Castle lay off, I agree she probably shouldn't breed at less then 1500g but she is a 1000g more then the small side of Breeding. so one year of rebreeding will be fine just as long as this doesn't become a yearly thing the snake will be healthy.

yea, I had considered that but I never even heard of anyone double-clutching Ball Pythons.....usually that something you see in Corns and Ratsnakes. As I did say, the snake's weight is healthy, I just don't see the benefit of this.....considering copulation so soon after breeding may not yield desirable clutch factors, or may not even take at all. I honestly wasn't trying to "lay it on", I just joined the thread too late....not sure why you felt the need to tell me to lay off. She will probably be fine at that size, I agree, and since your advice was to at least skip next season, I will agree on that as well.

Frank Castle have you ever kept/bred BP's

Ja. Wouldn't post in this thread if I haven't. Several BP morphs, Boas, "Anacondas", King, Rat, Corn, Hognose, and several others, Black Emperor Scorpions and a variety of lizards too

If staff allows it, I can PM you the remaining snakes I have left for sale. They are in Hamburg every other month too

 

[brittneyelz]

So if I breed her now it shouldn't be that big of a problem as long as she isn't breed so soon together in the future right? I don't want to stop.since I started and they are locked and we'll I'm excited. From what I gathered alot of people do do this and breed season to season back to back with out problems. I do plan on giving her time off just not until after this cycle. So if I breed her now Iso there a chance of most eggs being bad or should they be alright?