i crossed my zz with a salvini and the fry back to a super green texas then back twice to the zz female fh. turned out pretty nice i call the 3 fry i grew out and kept my pit bull fish, i have 2 females and one male. i plan to breed the male with the one female and keep the line going. they have medium kok size but amazing color and flowers. i also am buying a hybrid tomorow of a cinvict and jack dempsey mix. i like them. i grow them out to about 2 inches and use what i dont like as feeders for my alligator gar and pike cichlids.