breeding silvers
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yes they will breed in a tank. that is if you know what you must do so they will.. or by accident.
it also is not as hard to identify or have a pair because they will pair up easier because it is not so impossible to get them in trigger conditions where they would pair up and also they are cheaper and more available, not rare and not so aggressive. you get a fully mature female and a fully mature male and you will have a shot by way of pairing. they dont have the same exact habits as asians. in this asian advice /information is not so perfect to your situation. what i mean by this is that you can be more positive about breeding chances, just maybe not so positive about the viability.
though going by what i have read around here, very few people know how to achieve it and really, people that do know, wouldnt tell and would likley be moving forth and breeding the harder stuff. so in this spawning of silvers in tanks can often come by accident or on the way to learning and so should be a stepping stone.
going by the low price for silvers, i dont think it would be all that worthwhile but if your going to spend all that time looking after fish anyway then it would be a bonus of sorts.
for me, its a lot of time and money for the returns.
for example in australia, leichardti will also readily pair up, rather easy in natural conditions. we had six farms breeding our local fish, then after a while at like 35 bucks each, a few farmers realised it was better to allocate a pond and time doing other fish species altogether. so now there is half as many producing.
this is why i would not base a business on them and even more so for tanks.
silvers and greens and yellow tails will breed a lot easier than reds and goldens so its not so impossibly hard. my advice would be if your in a climate location suitable to them breeding naturally and if you have a natural running water source then hook up to it and give it a go.
it also is not as hard to identify or have a pair because they will pair up easier because it is not so impossible to get them in trigger conditions where they would pair up and also they are cheaper and more available, not rare and not so aggressive. you get a fully mature female and a fully mature male and you will have a shot by way of pairing. they dont have the same exact habits as asians. in this asian advice /information is not so perfect to your situation. what i mean by this is that you can be more positive about breeding chances, just maybe not so positive about the viability.
though going by what i have read around here, very few people know how to achieve it and really, people that do know, wouldnt tell and would likley be moving forth and breeding the harder stuff. so in this spawning of silvers in tanks can often come by accident or on the way to learning and so should be a stepping stone.
going by the low price for silvers, i dont think it would be all that worthwhile but if your going to spend all that time looking after fish anyway then it would be a bonus of sorts.
for me, its a lot of time and money for the returns.
for example in australia, leichardti will also readily pair up, rather easy in natural conditions. we had six farms breeding our local fish, then after a while at like 35 bucks each, a few farmers realised it was better to allocate a pond and time doing other fish species altogether. so now there is half as many producing.
this is why i would not base a business on them and even more so for tanks.
silvers and greens and yellow tails will breed a lot easier than reds and goldens so its not so impossibly hard. my advice would be if your in a climate location suitable to them breeding naturally and if you have a natural running water source then hook up to it and give it a go.
the video shown was a case where the female was given the proper conditions to spawn.
believe it or not, she would have released those eggs even if she was the only one in the tank at that time. the fact that there was a teenage boy in the tank had nothing to do with it.
believe it or not, she would have released those eggs even if she was the only one in the tank at that time. the fact that there was a teenage boy in the tank had nothing to do with it.
ausarow;4213905; said:
So you say it will work in a tank with a pair of silvers, because you have experience doing it?
I cannot believe that its that easy. Where you just throw a couple of aros in a tank and they have babies. The fact that its not widely done and the fact that people on this website love to brag about their feats, makes me believe that if it was possible, it would have been documented on this website at some point or another.
You sound like you know the tricks to get these things paired up. Care to share? What are these so called trigger conditions?ausarow;4213905; said:
What are you talking about? What does dropping eggs have to do with pairing up aros? You said so yourself, flagtail's female would have dropped eggs regardless of whether or not there was a male in the tank, which clearly means the female isnt paired up. It's obviously not a video of a breeding pair if shes dropping eggs with no male to fertilize them...ausarow;4213909; said:
ok gshock. this time you are more friendly and didnt set out to just jeer at me like i have no idea.
so ill expand some more. i do think people should earn their knowledge though.
there are many people out there that could well write a book on arow breeding but it would cost them in sales. it is their livelihood.
it has taken me over a decade of research, cost me a whack of money and hard work to know what i know today. my point is that silvers are not so near impossible, the complete negativity that gets thrown around here sometimes when the subject of breeding silvers is not so warranted.
flagtails male was most likely not "paired up" because it was too young.
if there was an older male it could have and should have been success because the conditions where such that MADE the female go through all the egg stages and then spit them out, this would have also been conditions that MAKE a silver male get jiggy with it. it should not surprise us to see flagtail breed his fish soon.
i have seen some stories here where people get close and im sure many more get close without knowing it. these conditions that make all the egg stages occur are also conducive to "pairing". the conditions need to remain correct right up till spawning. this is why its not very easy if one does not know where to start or where to change.
exactly the problem when people think they can get a male and female pair and it will just be natural from there.
say you run one male and one female silver in a natural setting pond, like in the south american climate with natural water and hydrology.. they will pair up and breed much easier than say a male and female red in the opposing correct location. it is generally the female which makes it harder in these cases.
the same ease goes for jars in a natural setting. its been done numerous times with two or three fish only.
So im saying silvers will breed in a tank, dont ever think that its as hard as asians.
that is when the tank is providing the right triggers.
it is very rare for them to breed in tanks because this is almost never provided. the tank size being the major problem but there are others too. for asians you sure do have a very real problem with choosing a mate.
but even for silvers this is why next to no one has "pairing"-it is not because they are not potential pairs at all. it is because the conditions arent there for them to even get sexual, thereby showing you indication of a pair. i think i have explained enough on how to sex arows to you before, i can sex jars and have recently sexed two rtgs and i know it is not guesswork.
but chances are that most other keepers will only notice sex easily if they are showing pairing behavior. if you have one female under these conditions without a male you can still sex her.
though it is not absolutely needed for there to be a pair, it will be absolute.
the other thing of note should be that having a "pair" is not the be all and end all if you have all the other things wrong. they will just be there living.
flagtails tank was more so just to hold the fish, with the water being better quality than what nearly everyone else has in their tanks and its not just in his filtration but rather in his water supply.
check out how he did his set up and then you will see that its not your average system.
i am not going to spell out every single facet, id rather people think im totally full of it than to spell it out as such.
so ill expand some more. i do think people should earn their knowledge though.
there are many people out there that could well write a book on arow breeding but it would cost them in sales. it is their livelihood.
it has taken me over a decade of research, cost me a whack of money and hard work to know what i know today. my point is that silvers are not so near impossible, the complete negativity that gets thrown around here sometimes when the subject of breeding silvers is not so warranted.
flagtails male was most likely not "paired up" because it was too young.
if there was an older male it could have and should have been success because the conditions where such that MADE the female go through all the egg stages and then spit them out, this would have also been conditions that MAKE a silver male get jiggy with it. it should not surprise us to see flagtail breed his fish soon.
i have seen some stories here where people get close and im sure many more get close without knowing it. these conditions that make all the egg stages occur are also conducive to "pairing". the conditions need to remain correct right up till spawning. this is why its not very easy if one does not know where to start or where to change.
exactly the problem when people think they can get a male and female pair and it will just be natural from there.
say you run one male and one female silver in a natural setting pond, like in the south american climate with natural water and hydrology.. they will pair up and breed much easier than say a male and female red in the opposing correct location. it is generally the female which makes it harder in these cases.
the same ease goes for jars in a natural setting. its been done numerous times with two or three fish only.
So im saying silvers will breed in a tank, dont ever think that its as hard as asians.
that is when the tank is providing the right triggers.
it is very rare for them to breed in tanks because this is almost never provided. the tank size being the major problem but there are others too. for asians you sure do have a very real problem with choosing a mate.
but even for silvers this is why next to no one has "pairing"-it is not because they are not potential pairs at all. it is because the conditions arent there for them to even get sexual, thereby showing you indication of a pair. i think i have explained enough on how to sex arows to you before, i can sex jars and have recently sexed two rtgs and i know it is not guesswork.
but chances are that most other keepers will only notice sex easily if they are showing pairing behavior. if you have one female under these conditions without a male you can still sex her.
though it is not absolutely needed for there to be a pair, it will be absolute.
the other thing of note should be that having a "pair" is not the be all and end all if you have all the other things wrong. they will just be there living.
flagtails tank was more so just to hold the fish, with the water being better quality than what nearly everyone else has in their tanks and its not just in his filtration but rather in his water supply.
check out how he did his set up and then you will see that its not your average system.
i am not going to spell out every single facet, id rather people think im totally full of it than to spell it out as such.
hi guys like i said before it is really going to be a tough job breeding silvers in tanks which is why im gunna go with flowerhorns instead, i am thinking of getting 5 flowerhorns and housing them in their own 1.2m tanks, and then the pair i want to breed would go into a 2m tank with a diviver, what do u guys think? and should i use substrate or go bare bottom? please leave your replies thanks
arowana breeding: (what i have read, i have not bred them)
1)you will need a very large tank, around a thousand gallons
2)the pairs should be separated when they start looking like they're pairing up
3)try adding blackwater extract, like this: http://www.aquascapeonline.com/products/blackwater-extract-3-38-fl-oz.html
4)also, don't buy adults unless they are already a pair. silvers raised together are more likely to spawn
1)you will need a very large tank, around a thousand gallons
2)the pairs should be separated when they start looking like they're pairing up
3)try adding blackwater extract, like this: http://www.aquascapeonline.com/products/blackwater-extract-3-38-fl-oz.html
4)also, don't buy adults unless they are already a pair. silvers raised together are more likely to spawn
