Breeding

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This has turned out to be quite an interesting thread. Thanks classic-chassis for all the time your putting into this. Keep the info comimg ;)

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:popcorn:Indeed CC, thanks for the passion.
 
emartin;3880800; said:
Finally a reasonable person!

I firmly believe that they have been bred, whether naturally or with hormones. What I don't know is if it is done commercially. I think it is a VERY safe bet to say that Universities or Government facilities have bred Datnioides species in captivity... There's no reason to suggest they haven't since that is exactly what they do...

I know they breed Trout, Salmon, Sunfish (including Bass) and other game fish in captivity like crazy here in the USA in hatcheries.
From my conversation with them STs have been bred but with limited success.
They told me they are trying every possible method available, it is a lab.
They do not want this fish to be lost, and if you think about it the window of opportunity is not a big one. How long do captive STs live for anyway?
I have an e-mail address for the facility which was given to me, I would like some figures on "limited success".

These people are good at what they do, they've been captive breeding giant Mekong catfish for a while now.
 
Nice job on the research! Good luck in the future and hope you can find out more to keep us posted.
 
classic-chassis;3881173; said:
From my conversation with them STs have been bred but with limited success.
They told me they are trying every possible method available, it is a lab.
They do not want this fish to be lost, and if you think about it the window of opportunity is not a big one. How long do captive STs live for anyway?
I have an e-mail address for the facility which was given to me, I would like some figures on "limited success".

These people are good at what they do, they've been captive breeding giant Mekong catfish for a while now.

I wouldn't want to lose a native fish species as well...

I'd be really pissed off if Black Banded Sunfish Enneacanthus chaetodon (the timid, dwarf datnioides cousin? LOL) became extinct in the wild. They are already threatened. You can only find them I think here in NJ (I caught some here before), PA, and MD I think.
 
I spoke to the owner of the fish farm in Patumtanee. They are closed today but i am going to meet them next week. Having a conversation on the phone with a Thai is difficult at the best of times, even if the Thai speaks pretty good English.
Obviously i tried to ask them about the NTTs they advertise, but after passing the phone to and fro between a few of them confusion won. I don't know the Thai name for NTT or Indo, I used the Thai name for ST,so we had a short conversation about STs only. They told me they have several fully grown adults which aren't for sale. They are trying to breed STs, but have not been able to yet.
At that point i realized only a personal visit will do if i am to find out about NTTs and Indos one way or the other.
The bottom line is this; I plan to get friendly with these people. If they are not breeding yet they're trying to. In this country that means it will happen if it hasn't already.
If they are not being bred it means hobbyists’, like me and you, are going to buy them to extinction the same as STs. Sad but true.
 
Thanks cc.. ;)

Sounds bout right for the ST :(

anyone care to help him out with the translation of NTT and IT into thai language?
 
Haha, i should have asked my wife, but A: she thinks i've lost the plot, and B: she really isn't into helping me about fish at the moment. I need to go there really because i want more than a quick conversation. I know without fail the ST will end up being bred. Too much at stake for a fail, and i want to know when it happens. I would expect within the next ten years STs will be bred only in thailand and be in the same position as Asian Aros are now. Chipped, certs and expensive.
I've spoken to too many people that have said ITs are farm bred, including the helpful ladies at Kasetsat Uni for a quick phone conversation. I will go next Sunday without fail.
 
wonderful job you're doing C-C thanks for your time, effort and all the great info so far. keep it up! :) can't wait to hear the news after your visit to the fish breeding facility.
 
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