I was asured these were Cichla Intermedia......I was also told a total of 100 went to the East with no complants yet, is that Indo.? I was also told that Co. from Canada has the same batch,but I just noticed he had Piquiti and Ocellaris ? All Im seeing is 3 bars @ 3-3.5" right now. I was told I need to wait 6 months to ID . True but not true to Id Intermedia. No disrespect to the vender. Sorry to cloud this post, Mike. Intermedia do come from lotic water, but are not Impossible to ship and not impossible to keep in captivity. Just check Utube. Do not give up on Royals guys!!! Thankyou