ok are their any other lures you would recommend? could the rapala shadow rap deep work or the husky jerk deep?
Anything that looks like a fish that you can fish on the bottom could work. I've caught them on everything really, jigheads with crawfish or flukes on it, spinnerbaits, lipless crankbaits, crankbaits, live minnows and shiners, etc.
I just used lipless crankbaits because I got a bunch from bass pro shops during a clearance sale, $2 each so I got like 4 of each color (5 separate colors), plus they work for just about any predatory fish (I've caught stripers, walleye, sauger, muskie, pickerel, large and smallmouth bass, and even catfish on them). Plus, lipless crankbaits sink on their own, you don't have to reel to make them sink.