Can you help ID this fish.
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Cichlidfish, right on!! I contacted the owner of the pictured fish and he assured me that they were 100% 'nourissati'....guaranteed. The owner mentioned that in this varient the head shape is a little rounder and deeper bodied than the one pictured on the cover of Cichlid News in that it is lacustrine rather than riverine. Thanks forum members for your input. It's amazing how many characteristics are common to so many different species.
-Jim
-Jim
notho2000;5154415; said:
No problem Jim, but I beleive it was orljdmh22 that called it first. Everyone is so quick to say "hybrid" but in most cases the fish is not a hybrid. The truth is that cichlids rarely interbreed. There are so many sp. out there that are not known to most people, that they always think it must be a hybrid.
I'm still very unsure about calling that a nourissati. It is much chunkier and shorter bodied then any nourissati I have ever seen pictured or in person. Also most nourissati tend to show one main black blotch on there side with very light to now barring as adults. The one you pictured showed very strong barring.
Plus the Growouts that you posted on the ACA site look nothing like the adult you pictured here. So either what is normally seen in the hobby sold as nourissati is not the right fish or your fish is not. This still does not explain how your fry from the pictured fish look completely different and several of them even from the same spawn seem to have different traits. This is why I feel they are probably a mix.
I'm definately interested to see if this ever gets sorted out. Some misteries go unsolved though
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Plus the Growouts that you posted on the ACA site look nothing like the adult you pictured here. So either what is normally seen in the hobby sold as nourissati is not the right fish or your fish is not. This still does not explain how your fry from the pictured fish look completely different and several of them even from the same spawn seem to have different traits. This is why I feel they are probably a mix.
I'm definately interested to see if this ever gets sorted out. Some misteries go unsolved though
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cichlidfish;5154562; said:
Your right, Cichlidfish. Orljdmh22 said "100% nourissati'. You both know your cichlids! But jgentry's comment is worth noting.
Thankyou for your input, jgentry. I personally have never seen an adult 'nourissati'. The fish identified as 'nourissati' by the owner John Sabo were obtained from Rusty Wessel as "wild caughts" and I'm assuming identified by him as A. nourissati. So it's pretty puzzling. I'll continue to dig and see what I come up with. However as you say"some mysteries go unsolved though".
-Jim
notho2000;5155795; said:
Jim-if John Sabo obtained that fish from Rusty Wessel, then you know this must be 100% accurate.
How big is this a. nourissati?
cichlidfish;5156383; said:
I don't think it is that cut an dry. There have been fish in the hobby for decades that are misslabled by some of the most known collectors. Identification can often be extremely difficult. Plus once the collector ships them who knows how they get mislabled or swapped around from that point forward. My question would be if this fish is A. Nourissati then what is the fish currently circulating in the hobby labled as A. Nourissati becuase they certainly do not look the same at all.
Simple fact is that there are a few A. Nourissati pics that resemble this fish on the web but the largest majority look nothing like this fish. The 3rd pic you posted cichlidfish a lot closer to what we normally see. It is longer bodied, slimmer, shows some red, and not nearly the barring. To add to the confusion the fish pictured is supposed to be part of a pair that spawned. The OP has fry from this spawn that look almost nothing like the parents as grown adults.
Who knows for sure. I'd email the pics of the parent and there offspring to Rusty and see if he did collect them or knows more info. That's your best of gettting an answer.
