Caquetaia umbrifera

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Benfica540;630749; said:
Yeah, definitely a solo species. You don't typically want tankmates for something that can reach 24" :naughty:.

I've heard of people here saying that they've had batch after batch of umbies from Rapps without a male in the group, but you need to remember that they get pretty big, so it'll take longer for them to mature, and sex, unless you vent, which I have no idea how to do. Just like other animals, you pretty much have a 50-50 shot at a male.

I usually maintain single-species tanks. I meant, of the species, can multiple umbies be kept together. Keep in mind I have 20 450s and around 90 other tanks to settle/upgrade fish into.
 
Oddball;630756; said:
I usually maintain single-species tanks. I meant, of the species, can multiple umbies be kept together. Keep in mind I have 20 450s and around 90 other tanks to settle/upgrade fish into.

the more you get into CA/SA cichlids the more you'll find that in general males of the same species cannot be kept together unless in the largest of tanks. granted, that's a gross generalization and there are exceptions, but as a starting guideline it's pretty good to follow.

aggression in New world cichlids is usually worst when you're keeping a breeding pair...then no other fish are safe no matter how mellow the species is considered to be. one step down the aggression ladder would be when you're keeping 2 males of the same species in a tank that doesn't allow them enough room to keep far away from each other. the next step down would be when keeping 2 males of different species that are very close in appearance.

considering the reputation that umbees have and their potential size, even in a 450 or larger gallon tank I don't think you'd be able to keep more than 1 male. they are open water swimmers/predators and require a huge territory. :)

ps. please tell me you looked in awe for at least 3-5 min. at the picture of cichlidscene's umbee with his arm in front of the tank. when I first saw that pic I was in a state of :eek: and couldn't take my eyes off the screen for several minutes.
 
Jason_S;630779; said:
the more you get into CA/SA cichlids the more you'll find that in general males of the same species cannot be kept together unless in the largest of tanks. granted, that's a gross generalization and there are exceptions, but as a starting guideline it's pretty good to follow.

aggression in New world cichlids is usually worst when you're keeping a breeding pair...then no other fish are safe no matter how mellow the species is considered to be. one step down the aggression ladder would be when you're keeping 2 males of the same species in a tank that doesn't allow them enough room to keep far away from each other. the next step down would be when keeping 2 males of different species that are very close in appearance.

considering the reputation that umbees have and their potential size, even in a 450 or larger gallon tank I don't think you'd be able to keep more than 1 male. they are open water swimmers/predators and require a huge territory. :)

ps. please tell me you looked in awe for at least 3-5 min. at the picture of cichlidscene's umbee with his arm in front of the tank. when I first saw that pic I was in a state of :eek: and couldn't take my eyes off the screen for several minutes.


:iagree: Oddball, sorry for the bad wording I mean't one per tank. I've had passive umbie's and I've had aggressive. Had a couple juvi's under 5" that simply would not tolerate each other in the same tank.

Jason I think the first paragraph of what you said is very important.
 
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