Caught Him in a stream by my house....what is it

[me_wee_todded]

Now there is an argument about what constitutes a minnow.

 

[teleost]

Now there is an argument about what constitutes a minnow.

I guess so. Tman thinks Salmonids are minnows.

 

[Anderman]

I thought you were talking about trout.Its not nice to change the rules in the middle of the game.Okay I surrender, I am going back to my nice warm tropical aquariums and leaving the cold water fish to you salmonoids or whatever you call yourselves. One last thing to break the tension.Here is my Grammode eating a wild trout salmonid minnow thingy..

 

[sandtiger]

minnow(s) meaning 2.
For fish, the word minnow can mean, in decreasing order of specificity:
The Eurasian minnow, Phoxinus phoxinus (Linnaeus, 1758)

Not a trout

Any, particularly small, fish of the family Cyprinidae

Not a trout. Carp, barbs and true minnows belong to this family. So does the Eurasian minnow.

Any, particularly small, fish of the family Centrarchidae

Not a trout, centrarchids are sunfish.

Fish of the family Galaxiidae, in particular those of genus galaxiid occurring in the Southern Hemisphere

Again, not a trout. Trout belong to the Salmonid family.

Any small freshwater fish, in particular one used as bait by anglers

Trout aren't used as baitfish or at least aren't supposed to be used and are illegal to use.

Also for fish, in regional usage, it can refer to:
The stickleback, another type of freshwater fish (term used in parts of Britain)
The Danionins from south east Asia

None of these are trout either. There isen't a single definition that says the term "minnow" can be used for a trout. Basically you just proved yourself wrong by providing us with this definition.

I thought you were talking about trout.Its not nice to change the rules in the middle of the game.

You're kidding me right? Trout are members of the SALMONid family.

 

[Anderman]

The magic word is ANY small freshwater fish. Ah but there isn't one that says I can't.
So I am going to call it a minnow!

 

[teleost]

The magic word is ANY small freshwater fish. Ah but there isn't one that says I can't.
So I am going to call it a minnow!

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iniquity

noun
1. absence of moral or spiritual values; "the powers of darkness"
2. morally objectionable behavior [syn: evil]
3. an unjust act [syn: injustice]

 

[TheBloodyIrish]

Where I live we can keep 5 trout and after we catch them we fillet them and the rest goes in the garden. We live in a small community and we have lots of dams and such that are stocked each year with trout. We also have a river that has pickerel,sturgeon,trout,pike,goldeye,suckers,ling and a few I probably don't know about. Just last year I caught a goldeye minnow in the river and kept it in a tank for a few months to see how it did.I bet I will go to hell now!! LOL LOL. It swam with all the other tropicals and ate flakes and such but never really grew at all. Seemed like a good experiment to me.

That is different. You caught legal-sized fish, it is a completely different ballgame. What you do with the unused remains is your business. In some provinces, you are not suppose to possess wild-caught undersized natives, or in some cases -- oversized natives. Even our "baitfish," aka minnows, are not suppose to be alive either. The only seemingly loopholes for those strict laws are captive-bred fish or stock from the States and other less strict provinces.

However the original poster doesn't live in Canada, so there is more flexibility in what he can do and cannot do. However the only thing he did wrong was that he caught an undersized trout without identifying it before taking it home.

 

[madabouttankbusters]

im sure the bass will apprecaite ya efforts

 

[ksiaquatics]

I think one of the biggest issues here that has been the underlting issue, but not the one out in the open, is that the vast majority of the trouts in the Pacific northwest are critically imperiled. All of the native trout species west of the Mississippi are threatened in one way or another, due to the water conservation issues of the area and, more importantly to this forum, the introduction of non-native brown and rainbow trout.

What I am getting at is that no trout, under any circumstances should be taekn from these waters without knowing EXACTLY what species it is. I know that many of you can't grasp the importance of this and may never be able to, but I would think that you can at least see the issue. Our children are already going to be without so much that we have in the natural world due to all sorts of causes. Shouldn't we do everythingthing we can as fishkeepers, to limit this?

 

[Polypterus]

What I am getting at is that no trout, under any circumstances should be taekn from these waters without knowing EXACTLY what species it is. I know that many of you can't grasp the importance of this and may never be able to, but I would think that you can at least see the issue. Our children are already going to be without so much that we have in the natural world due to all sorts of causes. Shouldn't we do everythingthing we can as fishkeepers, to limit this?

I tried to explain this once and the reply back was "Native fish all suck so why should I care"...This is the underlining attitude of most Tropical fish hobbyists toward Native North American fish and to the habitats they live in..Hell there is a big BOO HOO going on elsewhere here about Peru's fish species and here in Native land we still get people wanting to release fish, collect threatened animals and actually try to justify it as OK..I'm not so sure that many of the typical hobbyists these days understand nor care to understand their own backyard. They would rather just crap on it and forget it.