Caught These In Lake

[bigspizz]

just agreeing with you about there not being a time limit on how long the fish is in the tank .

if a fish is in the tank it will pick up the virus straight away and should not be released

Thats what I thought, you just didn't quote so I didn't know.

And to the op I don't think you are a bad person, I just worked at an lfs and all the kids told me they release ALL there fish when they are"done" with them.

If I didn't say something, it may have gone unsaid. It's all good I just want you to know the law(s). Just cause the time was not "that" long, it is still the same as a week, a month, a year.

I know you are supposed to kill snakeheads, but I am not 100% sure on other fish. I am like 98.7% sure that you should though.....

 

[maseyferguson05]

There are probably 50 different species of fish in that lake alone, there is no way to know what your going to catch when you cast the line out. Saying that I shouldn't fish because I don't have the aquarium space to keep them is stupid.

Nobody ever said to stop fishing. They did however tell you to stop putting fish you caught into your tank and releasing them. What don't you get about that? When you caught the Jags all you had to do was get them off the line and throw em back in.

I agree. If he had put them in a 5 gallon bucket and taken pics from the top, no one would have said anything. But he put them in a clear glass box. Whats the difference, other than a technicality?

A bucket is different if it has not been in contact or used for ornamental fish. The tank that he put the jags in could be infested with something that native species are not subjected to, he releases the jags after takes a few pictures and spreads the disease. Bingo Jags are banned.

 

[mssassysan2000]

Those are some lovly jags.

 

[Dr Joe]

Nobody ever said to stop fishing. They did however tell you to stop putting fish you caught into your tank and releasing them. What don't you get about that? When you caught the Jags all you had to do was get them off the line and throw em back in.

A bucket is different if it has not been in contact or used for ornamental fish. The tank that he put the jags in could be infested with something that native species are not subjected to, he releases the jags after takes a few pictures and spreads the disease. Bingo Jags are banned.

Ok, Fortunately altimaser did everything right, clean tank, water from where fish were taken, fish returned before any damaged done to fish. Same as done when studying & cataloging fish.

Except:

Unfortunately altimaser released an exotic species back into the wild. You released at least three 1/2's of a breeding pair & over a period of a year could spawn over 16000 more fish (female lays about 4000 eggs). Mind boggling isn't it. Now if only 1% lived that's still 160 exotic fish taking up native fishes habitat, so very quickly you will no longer be catching those LMBs.


As painful as it is altimaser, it is all our responsibilities to help keep our waterways clean and free of Aquatic Nuisance Species (ANS) http://www.anstaskforce.gov/default.php . Attempted clean-up of our waterways is costing us 10's of millions of dollars every year (and thats just Florida).

Your heart was in the right place wanting to show this species to all of us, and I understand not wanting to kill the fish, and the one to be mad at is the original perso(s) that caused you to have to euthanize these fish (putting clove oil in the water prior to freezing them is the accepted way).

If you can find someone interested in keeping these fish and is in a state where they are legal to be kept, you still may need a license to ship these or any fish especially if you are accepting money for them. Shipping larger fish is no easy (or cheap) task, one of our vendors was kind enough to post the proper procedure for this.

Beautiful fish.

Thanks for the post and pix.

I hope you will be able to do the right and proper thing in the future.

Dr Joe

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[altimaser]

Nobody ever said to stop fishing. They did however tell you to stop putting fish you caught into your tank and releasing them. What don't you get about that? When you caught the Jags all you had to do was get them off the line and throw em back in.


Go re-read the post, They said that if I can't keep them and I'm not willing to kill them that I shouldn't fish, that was what was said. Bigspizz's argument is that I re-released them, whats the difference in taking them off the line and putting them back or taking them home for a day and then re-realsing them. It's the same results. Like I said before, the tank was a spare that had been sitting around, filled with lake water(where they came from). How can they pick up a disease in the same water that they just came from? The tank hasn't had fish in it for years.

The difference between me and you, bigspizz, is that I respect all of god's creatures. I am a fish lover and when I see a beautiful Cichlid, I respect it for what it is, you don't. Maybe you should find another hobby, you obviously don't respect animals. You hangin out with Mike Vick, bigspizz?

 

[Polypterus]

The difference between me and you, bigspizz, is that I respect all of god's creatures. I am a fish lover and when I see a beautiful Cichlid, I respect it for what it is, you don't. Maybe you should find another hobby, you obviously don't respect animals.

Umm...so you call releasing a non-native exotic fish to compete with Native fish respecting animals??? What about respect for the local ecology?? what about respect for the NATIVE flora and Fauna that have been FUBAR'ed thanks to those lovely invasive and exotic aquatics???

You can try to paint a piece of crap pretty colors but it is still a piece of crap and it still smells as bad...

 

[altimaser]

[/QUOTE] Maybe I shouldn't have brought them home and put them in the tank for pics, but I wanted people to see good pictures of them and I used lake water in the tank.[/QUOTE]

Did you even read the whole post Maseyferguson05, I obviously get that part and admitted that I shouldn't have brought them home. Go re-read and get back to me.

Very well put Dr. Joe, I was excitied because I caught them and just wanted to show people. I didn't think it would hurt anything to bring them home and take pics, I only live about 20 feet from the lake. I tried to take all precautions. Still, reguardless of the law, I won't kill these fish. Florida Game and Wildlife won't be standing beside me when I am explaining to GOD that I had to kill these innocent creatures because MAN said so. Sorry fellas but there is a higher power then MAN, and he/she would not agree. Done with this thread ... Thanks for the Debate, even though I wasn't looking for one, it was fun ... Nothing personal Bigspizz but I gotta defend myself.

 

[altimaser]

Umm...so you call releasing a non-native exotic fish to compete with Native fish respecting animals??? What about respect for the local ecology?? what about respect for the NATIVE flora and Fauna that have been FUBAR'ed thanks to those lovely invasive and exotic aquatics???

You can try to paint a piece of crap pretty colors but it is still a piece of crap and it still smells as bad...

They were already there .... go Re-read post

 

[altimaser]

Caught this too ... Didn't bring this home though

 

[balton777]

The part about being in the tank is correct and not releasing non-native species back into the lake is correct too. If you catch a non-native species of fish and let it go, you are breaking the law. With a Jag, you're thinking big deal but what if you caught a snakehead? If you let it go, it's the same as catching those Jags and releasing them...sorry if that's not what you want to hear. I still think it's cool that you can catch wild Jags. Just have a plan on what to do with them once they're in your possession.