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[Gourami Swami]

It's not a good idea, because you wont eliminate the genes of the other species completely. Every fish in that family tree will be a hybrid, and this is how species in the trade weaken as well. And more people will buy "convicts" which are actually hybrids.

 

[Aaron427]

Well something a little of topic but the picture of the big male I just posted does he look like a pure convict him and the big female I have have paired off and keep going into the caves I made from them then I’ll come back an hour later and thier both chilling in a different cave what are they doing why aren’t they laying eggs I see the wall cleaning and the dancing between the to but no eggs seems they can’t decide where they want to go

 

[Aaron427]

Best I could get of my female

 

[Gourami Swami]

the other ones look like regular convicts to me, they probably will spawn might just take them a bit to get it right if it's their first time

 

[Aaron427]

When they do breed when is the best time to remove them. I’ve never really bred cichlids just piranha back years ago and that was tricky..

 

[AnthonyFish20]

If you plan on giving the fry to other people, yeah I'd get a pure convict male. if you are going to just let the fry get eaten or use as feeders, then it doesn't really matter, the thing to avoid is distributing the hybrids

if ur honest they are hybrids why is it bad to distribute them there are some cool hybrids out there

 

[Gourami Swami]

if ur honest they are hybrids why is it bad to distribute them there are some cool hybrids out there

It is bad to distribute them, because then more unsuspecting people like you buy them thinking they have a rare morph of something, and it turns out to be a hybrid. In addition to that, if you do what you propose and breed them back to more convicts, wrongly thinking you have a "pure" convict after the third generation, and you go and give them to people as convicts, before you know it everybody's convicts have a bit of red devil in them. And nobody has convicts anymore.

Bottom line, it is bad for the bloodlines and bad for the hobby to distribute hybrids under the guise of pure species. Even if you tell the people they are hybrids, who's to say they wont go and pawn them off as purebreds.

 

[AnthonyFish20]

It is bad to distribute them, because then more unsuspecting people like you buy them thinking they have a rare morph of something, and it turns out to be a hybrid. In addition to that, if you do what you propose and breed them back to more convicts, wrongly thinking you have a "pure" convict after the third generation, and you go and give them to people as convicts, before you know it everybody's convicts have a bit of red devil in them. And nobody has convicts anymore.

Bottom line, it is bad for the bloodlines and bad for the hobby to distribute hybrids under the guise of pure species. Even if you tell the people they are hybrids, who's to say they wont go and pawn them off as purebreds.

if u didnt read I said if people were honest like me I bred texas cichlid and flowerhorn told people what they were and they bought them

 

[Gourami Swami]

if u didnt read I said if people were honest like me I bred texas cichlid and flowerhorn told people what they were and they bought them

Because you cant guarantee that everyone you give them to will be as honest as you. With Flowerhorns, people know they are getting some kind of hybrid. A convict/rd, which is bred back to convict and then redistributed, would probably look like a convict that had special coloration, and less honest people would probably sell them as such.

The point is, if everyone continued on like that, it would be very difficult to find pure fish sooner or later, and the "pure" fish would all have a bit of something else mixed in.

 

[Aaron427]

I understand both sides. Cause that’s exactly how I got the hybrids in question they was in a tank of convicts and was sold to me as a pure convict. I won’t be returning to said store. Sad part is I got the fish from one of the biggest distributors in this part of Ohio... they just recently opened to the public...