Chinese Cave Gecko

[evilxyardxgnome]

Looks like we have a few female forms of Large_cichlids on our hands.

 

[reptech]

mixing reptiles is like mixing gas with fire if you do it youll get burned every time and calling out mods is only going to get you banned so id watch what you say

 

[evilxyardxgnome]

OMFG I feel as if I'm talking to PETA. e_e

The difference between us and PETA is we actually care about our animals.

 

[varanio]

That's exactly what I've heard, but aside from that I know very little about them. My friend picked one up and is keeping him with her leopard geckos. You think that's a bad idea? She keeps a moss box in there with him. I'm thinking about getting one of my own if he's simple enough to care for.

xD LMAO!!!

YESH

Don't worry K7. This kid is obviously a n00b @ Reptiles and doesn't know that it's perfectly acceptable to house similar species together for a short time. Don't let him push your buttons.

Oh and maybe people will start inviting you again, Squared, if you actually started to go with them when they do

You bring up some valid points, but you cant speak for the entire reptile community. Mixing herps is pretty kickass. Infact I do it all the time. But like Andy said, you better know what you're doing. It takes knowledge and patients to pull it off.

oh i totally agree with you about being careful when mixing herps. i only do it when i know they arent going to fight. i would never put something in the same tank if they fight.

I always try to see if they will be ok together and if they arent i always have plenty of back up tanks for my babies!

I think you along with a few others are still a little sore about our last argument. I don't know why you have to keep going after me personally. I never said I didn't trust others with more experience. There are a few people I look up to in the reptile world, I have mentors and people I learn from. However, age had NOTHING to do with experience. Anyone that knows me in person can tell you that.

If you were so much more experienced and knowledgeable than I am, then you would know that mixing herps is something that advanced hobbyists can pull off beautifully. If you've never mixed species, then you are really missing out on something. And until you learn to pull it off you will never be able to say you're more experienced than someone who has.

Are you telling me that different species of geckos don't interact in the wild?

This is all the garbage you posted about mixing reptiles, none of it was either educational or had any simple meaning that would convince me to mix anything that isnt the same species together. I may be coming off as arrogant, but I am protecting the rest of the forum from the mindless mumbo jumbo you keep throwing out here.

Mixing reptiles is not kick ass, its irresponsible and youre just doing a disjustice to the animals you keep. So from what I see here the only person displaying the arrogance is you and your band of girlfriends that are here supporting eachothers verbal diarrhea. If the norm is telling you that youre doing something that doesnt make sense, take a step back and think about it. I learned everything the hard way, there werent any reptile forums to visit, so I never had the advantage of letting other people help me through times of confusion and disillusion. You now have the resources to become a good keeper or just some rebellious person that likes to use her animals as a method to get attention. Because its pretty much what ive been seeing from you in the short time youve been here, nothing but arrogance, insult, and disgrace to some of us that are trying to do things right. So get off your high horse and contribute in a civil manner. You can tell me Im wrong when you get your phd in herpetology, but for now..... youre just as "noobie" as the guy or girl who comes on here to ask if crickets are ok to feed a bearded dragon. The cursing and the abbreviated veiled cursing are gonna stop! So, if you want to continue your participation on this website then you will comply starting today. If not, then find a new place ( you and your crew) because this behavior wont be tolerated anymore. Numerous members have complained, so this will be the line that mods here will draw.

Happy herping

The difference between us and PETA is we actually care about our animals.

 

[reptech]

thanks varanio this was getting out of control

 

[Vicious_Fish]

Oh and BTW years are a load of steaming B.S. I know SO MANY dudes with FAR more years under their belt than me, who don't know jack ****. If you walk around thinking you know more than everyone else because you've had the same herps for 20 years, you're never going to learn anything. The people I take advice from around here are actually pretty young.

This is got to be one of the dumbest things I've heard so far. I'm sorry but if you have the same herp for 20+ years (I have 2 by the way) then you must be doing something right. Experience doesn't count, aye? So I guess an 8 year old Peewee player knows more about football then say, oh Brett Farve? That doesn't make sense to me. You gain knowledge from experience, trial and error that sort of thing.

When I started keeping herps there was no "internet" to get my answers from. I didn't have reptile knowledgeable friends or relatives who could help me figure out these things. I had to learn them on my own. Hell, even my teachers from 1st to 12th grade use to come to me with questions about this sort of stuff. I don't know how old you are (I'm guess by your know-it-all, feisty attitude that you're quite young) but you've had the luxury of having the web answer your questions. Every dingle-berry with a computer can make a website or blog about whatever and just because you read it, it doesn't make it true.

You want the real answers? Talk to people who have been doing it correctly for 20+ years. Not some kid who's had a ball python in a 10 gallon tank for a year and works at Petsmart. Yeah I agree that there are some old heads that might not be up on the most recent herp facts but there are plenty who are. Listen to them, learn from them and most of all respect them and they will respect you.

 

[Jessica Dring]

If you walk around thinking you know more than everyone else because you've had the same herps for 20 years, you're never going to learn anything. The people I take advice from around here are actually pretty young.

Very Correct..however..me thinks this was a little hipercritical.
(And I am NOT arguing so please REFRAIN from the insults this time..lets be mature enough to discuss here).

You know I think what the problem is, is you all are saying this, but whos realising it? There is quite a few people walking round with their heads up their arse on this forum Yes. Does it get them anywhere? Nope. Will they learn anything new? Nope. So you are right..but I think you come across as the above in your posts..whether you like it or not. You seem to have chilled out a little..which is cool..a much better contribution to the forum, but running around telling people your quote above whilst saying to members 'I am the superior herp keeper' because I own 'such & such' is very hipercritical.

Who cares eh? Who cares who thinks who is better. Its getting beyond silly.

We all have to agree we do things differently. Jason might keep his animals on natural substrate, and you might keep yours in sterile conditions (newspaper or kitchen towel) but if done right both are just as good..both get the desired result for THAT owner. If done right I'll add. So who are we to tell somebody they are wrong if they do something different but it totally works for them?

How about we all cool it. Lets ALL stop acting like snobs here. Lets ALL stop running round with 'your wrong I'm right' and the 'superior herpkeeper' attitude, cause to be honest, it's been done before, and got very boring quickl, and it makes people lose their respect for you. Lets ALL get off this stupid defense mode whenever somebody gives us advice we are not sure about/don't quite agree with. If this is what our hobby has come to, its a damn shame.

Forums are sopposed to be for us all to talk and chat, and to teach eachother new things. Any Think-They-Know-It-Alls don't really have a place here as its about learning.One thing I'm sure of..I'm going to be open to all advice (with a little research) aslong as I haven't tried it before and it hasn't worked for me.

Come on guys, drop the attitude!

116 - Before you accuse me of being abit 'sore' about the convo that has long gone like you have with others when they've replied to you. No, I'm not. I couldn't care less because I don't hold grudges. Just because we did not agree at one time does not mean I will stop participating in conversations with my personal opinions. I just feel for EVERYONE this has got off to a bad start...so I'm speaking up. Lets hope we can both refrain from a slanging match..because I really haven't got a problem with you..we disagreed once end of.

 

[Jessica Dring]

BTW - I am not reffering to anybody in particular in my above post..pretty much us all.

 

[varanio]

While I agree with the overall message in your post, Jess I do disagree with them only on the fact that insults will not be tolerated, and neither will the misleading of advice to newer herpers. It would be irresponsible for a moderator to let this go on, and in all justice to the members here these messages need to be swept under the mat due to their misleading meanings.

 

[Jessica Dring]

Oh yeah. the mixing of herps?
Yep forgot about that.
My personal opinion, is if you are VERY experienced, have the time, absolutely 100% correct info (not just thinking you have because its convient). Yes I think it could be done. But only with very similar species with the same habitat and needs, that are not predatory to eachother...and in very spaceous sorroundings that provides an environment where these animals do not need to cross eachother.

But tbh finding similar species that you will not have problems with is more effort than its worth, like you said its bad enough the animals are in this box, lets provide them with a secure, safe and most of all COMFORTABLE one at that. Many of us do not realise that even being housed with their own kind can make an animal uncomfortable (through stress) nevermind differen't species. I don't see the need in it.

But thats my personal opinion. Have I mixed species? Nope. I know somebody very experienced who has..and decided against it.

Have I mixed same species? Yup, I got a very large viv with plenty of hides for each animal..and kept 2 royals together. They did Ok, they fed every time etc but I felt my animals were better off on their own. As thats how they are in the wild. Captivity is just too enclosed to do it. Haven't tried it with anything else - I dont need to. I have the space and i personally think mixed herp vivs don't really look that nice.

Its my personal opinion only guys!!

Yes, we do have to be careful with the advice we give noobs, we need to think carefully ebfore we speak!