Chocolate cichlid beats himself up in the mirror!

[FishDorkMike]

Well if you were properly housing him, using correct filtration, and providing him with a stress free environment, you wouldn't have to provoke him in such a way to make him eat correctly.

Pretty sure that 60 gallons, a marineland penguin biowheel 350 all to himself would suffice as more than proper housing says plenty of other sites. I introduced the dithers upon advice from this forum and that did no good. I traded all of his tankmates back to the LFS. I put the tetras back in my daughters tank since they were obviously doing no good. He seems quite happy with his current tank, not provoked. Saw another chocolate in the LFS friday when I picked up my jewels, another male in a tank with peacocks, firemouths, and an oscar or two. He seemed to be doing fine.
Ive also seen many of you claim that these could never co-exist!

 

[FishDorkMike]

Did you quarantine the new fish?

Have a pretty friendly relationship with the LFS, I ordered the new fish, she quarantined it for a week, I used test strips to make sure my water conditions matched hers as closely as possible, and then introduced the fish. Same deal with the jewels I picked up friday. I do not have the luxury of having room for a quarantine tank in my apartment. Of course I suppose you could call 60 gallon thats been empty for a week and a half until friday aside from a sailfin pleco an ok quarantine tank. The jewels dont seem to have a problem with it.

 

[KindredSpirit]

Well if you were properly housing him, using correct filtration, and providing him with a stress free environment, you wouldn't have to provoke him in such a way to make him eat correctly.

Now here's a thought, Mikey.

 

[kdrun76]

Have a pretty friendly relationship with the LFS, I ordered the new fish, she quarantined it for a week, I used test strips to make sure my water conditions matched hers as closely as possible, and then introduced the fish. Same deal with the jewels I picked up friday. I do not have the luxury of having room for a quarantine tank in my apartment. Of course I suppose you could call 60 gallon thats been empty for a week and a half until friday aside from a sailfin pleco an ok quarantine tank. The jewels dont seem to have a problem with it.

There are about 5 things seriously going wrong within this post. Yet Mikey here goes explosive when criticized. Apparently help from those of us with experience isn't what he wants. So I will just wish you luck. Looks like you and your fish will need it. When you are ready to accept that there are people out there that know things and have learned lessons you could benefit from, let us know.

 

[FishDorkMike]

There are about 5 things seriously going wrong within this post. Yet Mikey here goes explosive when criticized. Apparently help from those of us with experience isn't what he wants. So I will just wish you luck. Looks like you and your fish will need it. When you are ready to accept that there are people out there that know things and have learned lessons you could benefit from, let us know.

then point the 5 things out you dope, Ive read through your posts to. You are a troll. You critisize and just about nothing else. Get over yourself. I am doing the best I can for the 5 fish I have now, I have taken the advice from this forum, gotten rid of my two oscars, gotten rid of my female red devil (which got me an awesome deal on the jewel cichlids i purchased friday) etc.....you never offer any advice, you troll and critisize. Get over yourself. HOWS THAT FOR LETTING YOU KNOW?! ..lol... I also run an irc network off of my own consisting of linux and *Bsd servers that i OWN, I have opened up #aquariums on irc.sindustries.org. All of you would be my welcome guests...no matter what fish or tank settup or agenda you have. Feel free to set up your own irc channel.It sure beats checking a stupid forum everyday...it also beats a stupid web based chat :/ Either way, kdrun, I see through you. Offer some real advice instead of just pointing out wrongs. You are a quite negative person. I think you need a life, maybe you just lost a divorce or something? Who knows. You sure act like a ****ing dickhead. You sure seem to troll my posts more than any others also. You can kiss my ass. My own research of my fish has turned your advice over quite a few times. If 60 gallons for 1 five inch chocolate cichlid and a 6 or 7 inch sailfin pleco isnt good conditions for a chocolate cichlid isnt adviseable conditions...then ill run through a cornfield backwards. I have seen many website contradict your posts. What makes you better? How many have you owned? I see nothing on your profile or in your albums that would make anyone think you know **** about a chocolate cichlid.

 

[JTRG05]

Have a pretty friendly relationship with the LFS, I ordered the new fish, she quarantined it for a week, I used test strips to make sure my water conditions matched hers as closely as possible, and then introduced the fish. Same deal with the jewels I picked up friday. I do not have the luxury of having room for a quarantine tank in my apartment. Of course I suppose you could call 60 gallon thats been empty for a week and a half until friday aside from a sailfin pleco an ok quarantine tank. The jewels dont seem to have a problem with it.

I would recommend against the test strips mike, most on here like to use the API solution test kit. The issue with the strips is that they are unreliable, their results can be skewed by spilling water on them, improper storage or something as simple as humidity.

And I think everyone needs to calm down, including you Mike. I'm tired of seeing a Mod in every thread within the CA/SA section just to stop the arguements.

 

[KindredSpirit]

I would recommend against the test strips mike, most on here like to use the API solution test kit. The issue with the strips is that they are unreliable, their results can be skewed by spilling water on them, improper storage or something as simple as humidity.

This is true, Mike. Try the solution as I find it more reliable as well. Hang in there and I am sure that everyone is just trying to help in their own way!

You need to post some pictures!

 

[FishDorkMike]

Now here's a thought, Mikey.

a 60 gallon NON MIRRORED TANK with a penguin 350 biowheel ALL TO HIMSELF (after i took the advice of this forum and traded in all of his tankmates for credit) isnt housing him correctly? He eats in the mirrored tank, he doesnt do **** in the non mirrored tank. he looks like hes about to die in the tank without the mirror. floating sideways under a filter outlet..or hiding in a clay pot... I have done whats best for my fish. tyvm for your concern. This forum is not my only source of research, if it was, Im sure my fish would be dead.

 

[KindredSpirit]

I have done whats best for my fish. tyvm for your concern. .

Okay

 

[FishDorkMike]

I would recommend against the test strips mike, most on here like to use the API solution test kit. The issue with the strips is that they are unreliable, their results can be skewed by spilling water on them, improper storage or something as simple as humidity.

And I think everyone needs to calm down, including you Mike. I'm tired of seeing a Mod in every thread within the CA/SA section just to stop the arguements.

I am tired of these people treating me like I am purposely mistreating my fish like they have some sort inferiority complex. I have followed lots of advce from this forum, and none of it has done as much good as my own research. They seem to take offense to that. Sorry.