Cichlid compatabilty

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I write this because there are many questions posed such as, can I put this cichlid with that one(?), or why did this cichlid kill that one (?), etc etc.
Did you notice that in nature, you hardly ever find 2 of the same genus together, or 2 cichlids that share the same feeding strategy.
Or... in certain habitats, that there is only one cichlid found? And that there may be reasons for this?
I realize the argument that our tanks are not nature (or even close) so anything should be fair game.
But to me the fact that our tanks are not nature, makes them even more sensitive to species mismanagement. An example...
In nature, where JDs thrive, there normally are hardly any other species of cichlids found, but where the are other species, the JDs are few and far between, and often torn up. A video below of a cenote in Mexico, where uropthalmis thrive, and JDs suffer.

In a cenote only a few hundred yards away, JDs thrive, but no other cichids were present.
In places where many cichlids live in communities, there are often many different genera found, but often only one species of each genus. This may be because each genus has specialized in a certain food, or niche, and these don't overlap, so a sort of truce or compatibility arrangement is formed.
In Haiti only one species of cichlid is found. This should be a indicator of how the species should be kept.
On the north western slope of Mexico only beani is common, an indicator(?).
In North Central Mexico Herichthys are often found, and in certain places only share habitat with Nosferatu, if any other cichlid at all.
This to me indicates that it might be a mistake to try and keep cyanoguttatus, or carpintus, with a JD, or some other species.
Sorry if I blather, but nature sends us some powerful (and obvious messages), and maybe some of our aquatic woes would lessen if we took heed.
Just randomly putting 4 species of Parachromis together, or a bunch of different species of cichlids together because we like the way they look, often goes against nature.
 
Great write up duanes. Makes allot of sense. I for one never looked at it like that
 
I write this because there are many questions posed such as, can I put this cichlid with that one(?), or why did this cichlid kill that one (?), etc etc.
Did you notice that in nature, you hardly ever find 2 of the same genus together, or 2 cichlids that share the same feeding strategy.
Or... in certain habitats, that there is only one cichlid found? And that there may be reasons for this?
I realize the argument that our tanks are not nature (or even close) so anything should be fair game.
But to me the fact that our tanks are not nature, makes them even more sensitive to species mismanagement. An example...
In nature, where JDs thrive, there normally are hardly any other species of cichlids found, but where the are other species, the JDs are few and far between, and often torn up. A video below of a cenote in Mexico, where uropthalmis thrive, and JDs suffer.

In a cenote only a few hundred yards away, JDs thrive, but no other cichids were present.
In places where many cichlids live in communities, there are often many different genera found, but often only one species of each genus. This may be because each genus has specialized in a certain food, or niche, and these don't overlap, so a sort of truce or compatibility arrangement is formed.
In Haiti only one species of cichlid is found. This should be a indicator of how the species should be kept.
On the north western slope of Mexico only beani is common, an indicator(?).
In North Central Mexico Herichthys are often found, and in certain places only share habitat with Nosferatu, if any other cichlid at all.
This to me indicates that it might be a mistake to try and keep cyanoguttatus, or carpintus, with a JD, or some other species.
Sorry if I blather, but nature sends us some powerful (and obvious messages), and maybe some of our aquatic woes would lessen if we took heed.
Just randomly putting 4 species of Parachromis together, or a bunch of different species of cichlids together because we like the way they look, often goes against nature.

After reading stuff like this it makes me wonder even more "Why the *********************************************** doesn't this guy post more often?"
 
The more I watch cichlids in nature, the more I realize the many mistakes I have made in the past, and hope to not repeat.

Well ive learned allot from you during my time here. You're one of those guys i would trust blindly. Funny when i got back into the hobby i constantly picked your brain. I hope allot of the newer members take the time to read your "stuff"

Just from my limited experience im more of a one cichlid per tank guy now unless the tank is big enough (300 or better) for me it doesnt work long term. Getting 5 inch fish to coexist is nothing when they are 8, 10, 12 inches things change sometimes sooner
 
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After reading stuff like this it makes me wonder even more "Why the *********************************************** doesn't this guy post more often?"
Duane is too busy enjoying his new home in the tropics.......probably rummaging through the rainforest, half naked, as I'm typing this lol
 
Hahaha thats your standard reply when ever he does show up. Hes havingore fun with wilson on the beach

Duane is too busy enjoying his new home in the tropics.......probably rummaging through the rainforest, half naked, as I'm typing this lol
 
Duane is too busy enjoying his new home in the tropics.......probably rummaging through the rainforest, half naked, as I'm typing this lol
What could possibly make you think this? The pictures he posted of his vacation/family home? Please, I thought all your everyday average citizens had that type of retreat. ([-_-])

No, but seriously, it's amazing though
 
What could possibly make you think this? The pictures he posted of his vacation/family home? Please, I thought all your everyday average citizens had that type of retreat. ([-_-])

No, but seriously, it's amazing though
Not a vacation home, his permanent home now
 
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