i for one am agust hybrid ( the bp i had was my moms and wen she died i gave it to a nursing home that had a 55 gallon fish tank ) but i do plan on line breeding my pink cons tho.
Cichlid Line Bred vs. Hybrid
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cl0wn knife;2432074; said:
Eye of the beholder. That fish in your avatar isn't winning any beauty contests.
I think the point of what happens in nature does not really relate to the hobby much on this topic. Yes, we all know that animals, fish in particular, create hybrids in the wild. We all know that many if not most variaties of aquarium fish have been line bred for hundreds and thousands of generations to produce the fish most of us keep today. I beleive that the crosses should be allowed in the aca simply because so many people keep them. I'm not a fan of the freakishly looking hydrids (aka blood parrots) so I don't keep them anymore. I'm also not a fan of most East Africans, so I simply don't keep them. The only difficulty with allowing them in the ACA is how to classify them. Do you clump or do you seperate? There are somany hybrids out there it will be difficult. Good luck!!
i try to avoid line breeding and hybridisation, i will not buy any hybrids (including flowerhorns)
if im going to try breeding pairs i will try to get each fish from a different blood line.
im actually going to ask rapps to get me males and females from different parents for my dovii pair.
if im going to try breeding pairs i will try to get each fish from a different blood line.
im actually going to ask rapps to get me males and females from different parents for my dovii pair.
"if im going to try breeding pairs i will try to get each fish from a different blood line."
That's really the heart of the challenge when trying to keep an authentic (to wild) strain when dealing with fish with as many geographic variations as cichlids.
Different blood lines are good for "outcrossing" and not concentrating traits...but also increase the risk of crossing (different unique variants)... That's why sources that care about provenance, documentation of locale, and other information are so important (and worth supporting).
That's really the heart of the challenge when trying to keep an authentic (to wild) strain when dealing with fish with as many geographic variations as cichlids.
Different blood lines are good for "outcrossing" and not concentrating traits...but also increase the risk of crossing (different unique variants)... That's why sources that care about provenance, documentation of locale, and other information are so important (and worth supporting).
Hybrids are a cross between two species of fish. Line breeding is not hybridization. One discussion has nothing to do with the other. I'm against Flowerhorns and Blood Parrots. I think they're abominations (and fugly). This is just my opinion.
Inbreeding occurs in nature. This is fact. To what degree varies from species to species and environment to environment. Inbreeding should not be the only argument against line breeding. The features which are trying to be maintained or replicated should be the question. For me it depends on if breeders are line breeding to maintain something superficial like color (Red Oscars, Tiger Oscars) or breeding for physical abnormalities. When people are born with hump backs and crab hands we see this as undesirable and don't go out of our way to duplicate it. Unfortunately with animals something "unusual" may be seen as positive. People see fish as ornamental more often than not, "uniqueness" is a major selling point.
Inbreeding occurs in nature. This is fact. To what degree varies from species to species and environment to environment. Inbreeding should not be the only argument against line breeding. The features which are trying to be maintained or replicated should be the question. For me it depends on if breeders are line breeding to maintain something superficial like color (Red Oscars, Tiger Oscars) or breeding for physical abnormalities. When people are born with hump backs and crab hands we see this as undesirable and don't go out of our way to duplicate it. Unfortunately with animals something "unusual" may be seen as positive. People see fish as ornamental more often than not, "uniqueness" is a major selling point.
