Cloning the Wolly Mammoth

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You should take into consideration that T rex was the "Einstein" of Theropods. T rex brain was almost double the size of Giganotosaurus brain. Giganotosaurus had a more "crocodilian" brain while T rex was more like a colossal flightless bird of prey. I bet on the T rex in that aspect. Another advantage of t rex is, that Gigantosaurus specialized on large sauropods as prey. That needs completly different tactics than a T rex uses to catch hadrosaurs. Giganotosaurus is very much the same size as a large hadrosaurus like Lambeosaurus. So it has the typical size of T rex prey. T rex on the other side is something Giganotosaurus does not fight regulary. I´m pretty sure T rex would kill Giganotosaurus. And just look that Tyrannosaurids wiped out any Allosaurids in Eurasia and North America in the late cretacious. Allosaurids could only be found in remote areas like South America, Africa and Antarctica / Australia, where no Tyrannosaurids could reach. So i think its a clear thing.

Ha! Agreed completely. :cheers:
 
You should take into consideration that T rex was the "Einstein" of Theropods. T rex brain was almost double the size of Giganotosaurus brain. Giganotosaurus had a more "crocodilian" brain while T rex was more like a colossal flightless bird of prey. I bet on the T rex in that aspect. Another advantage of t rex is, that Gigantosaurus specialized on large sauropods as prey. That needs completly different tactics than a T rex uses to catch hadrosaurs. Giganotosaurus is very much the same size as a large hadrosaurus like Lambeosaurus. So it has the typical size of T rex prey. T rex on the other side is something Giganotosaurus does not fight regulary. I´m pretty sure T rex would kill Giganotosaurus. And just look that Tyrannosaurids wiped out any Allosaurids in Eurasia and North America in the late cretacious. Allosaurids could only be found in remote areas like South America, Africa and Antarctica / Australia, where no Tyrannosaurids could reach. So i think its a clear thing.

Ahmmm... I think it's because Gondwana and Laurasia are pretty much divided already even by early Cretaceous that the two theropod families evolved separately. Also, the prey that they each specialized on indeed have gone separately, too. Like how the ornithopods went north and the sauropods went south. Good point coz I didn't account for brain capacity. Guess a much more unpredictable dumb but faster attacker attacker will do the trick. The T-rex must be able to latch those teeth to have an effective kill as they are not serrated.
 
I say we should clone John Lennon. Im sure there is a test tube with his DNA in it somewhere, we should just stick to small stuff till we get all the quarks figured out lol
 
Ahmmm... I think it's because Gondwana and Laurasia are pretty much divided already even by early Cretaceous that the two theropod families evolved separately. Also, the prey that they each specialized on indeed have gone separately, too. Like how the ornithopods went north and the sauropods went south. Good point coz I didn't account for brain capacity. Guess a much more unpredictable dumb but faster attacker attacker will do the trick. The T-rex must be able to latch those teeth to have an effective kill as they are not serrated.

They are serrated, though not to the same extent as a carcharodontosaur.

I think the primary reason rex would have a good chance of winning this would be because a tyrannosaur is evolved to kill an animal build just like a carcharodontosaur. Granted the carcharodontosaur would possess the most dangerous set of weapons the rex ever encountered, but I still favor the rex. His entire build and strategy would work for taking on the carcharodontosaur, though he wouldn't come anywhere close to winning most of the time.

On the other hand, the carcharodontosaur wouldn't really know what to do against the rex; his hunting strategy isn't really valid in this situation.

I figure rexy would win 40%, Giga would win 30% and they'd both end up dying about 30%. This is of course assuming that it is a fight to the death and neither can escape. In non-mortal combat, I expect whoever got the advantage of surprise would likely run off the other.
 
Ok for all of you who want a dinosaur comeback, it's not happening because they have not found any DNA at all...

I'm still for cloning only those animals that we wiped out in the first place.
 
Ok for all of you who want a dinosaur comeback, it's not happening because they have not found any DNA at all...

I'm still for cloning only those animals that we wiped out in the first place.

We have almost 90% of the DNA. Since the genera is still alive. Theropods walk around us on a daily base. You must not clone it but recreate. Its a different process.
 
Ahmmm... I think it's because Gondwana and Laurasia are pretty much divided already even by early Cretaceous that the two theropod families evolved separately. Also, the prey that they each specialized on indeed have gone separately, too. Like how the ornithopods went north and the sauropods went south. Good point coz I didn't account for brain capacity. Guess a much more unpredictable dumb but faster attacker attacker will do the trick. The T-rex must be able to latch those teeth to have an effective kill as they are not serrated.


Tyrannosaurids developed in a world dominated from Allosaurids. Don´t forget that Tyrannosauruds were small animals in a world dominated by colossal Allosaurids like Acrocanthosaurus. At the end no Allosaurids remained in Laurasia because they could not stand direct competition with the Tyrannosaurids.

The first Tyrannosaurids were not really impressive animals:
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Like what I said, I believe it is not direct competition that drove the allosaurids/carcharodontosaurids out from the northern hemisphere. It is their respective prey that each went to separate hemispheres. The tyrannosaurids preyed on ceratopsians and the hadrosaurs while the carcharodontosaurids preyed on sauropods. This can be inferred by the explosion of ceratopsians and the ever growing duck bills in both China and North America. They even each have their own tyrannosaurs: Tarbosaurus in China and Mongolia while the Tyrannosaurus rex roamed North America. The Titanosaurs went south (India, Africa, Madagascar, South America specially Patagonia) and went smaller as the time passed. Like in the modern ecosytems we have today, there can be only one apex predator. There was no sign that they ever drove each other out when they were overlapping. They were specialized on their respective prey. Also, by the time that acrocanthosaurus roamed North America, there were still apatosaurines and late diplodocids in there.

P.S. Just a word of caution, though I love the images of the Chinese Guanlong there, I think you need to remove the cutout image above as that is copyrighted in Raul Martin's site.
 
so your telling me that all the hieroglyphs of nomads killing mammoths isnt real ?

Most definitely real they just dont depict the extinction of the species nor imply it and to think it was nomads when it was most likely climate is silly.

if a strain of a animal clone brought a epidemic to the human kind good thing ... population control

Im completely on board with this. I think mother nature will right herself sooner or later. A pandemic would be a great way to do it. Population is getting way too big and we need possibly a few billion fewer people in the world. I think we will be more likely to see a nuclear reason for this though and not an epidemic from a microbe.

I heard about this in the news the other day, and they mentioned that this was a stepping stone if it worked to bringing other animals such as the DoDo bird, and a few other species back...

But they also did say that scientists were not planning on bringing back any of the other dinosaurs...

So in a way im all for it, coz with the way the worlds supplies are dwindling, this maybe able to help some of the poorer countries food problems...


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I believe i read the same article and the reason they arent planning on bringing dinos back is because they have no viable dna. Every bit of dino dna is too degraded to work with. Otherwise im sure you would see a dino on that list of possibilities with the mammoth and sabertooth tiger. Im on board with the mammoth although i believe it would need to be put in the arctic to survive and im on the fence with the saber. I think we dont know enough about it and im sure it would be a nightmare if released into the wild, but then it was fun watching dinos eat people on Jurassic Park so i wouldnt be opposed to a saber killing a few people. Nature at its finest. You reap what you sew.
 
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