Noto;3159682; said:Dobsonfly larva has massive jaws, three pairs of legs, and thread-like gills along the sides: http://marlablair.com/hellgramite.jpg
Hmmm, could we both be wrong? Wish I'd taken some more pics. I know craneflies get big (and scare the crap out of people with their giant mosquito looks) but I don't think the larvae get as huge as the thing we pulled out of the water, but ya could be right.
Craneflies get big (I've found them over 3" long) and always have those distinctive welts around the body. Like all true fly larvae they are legless.
Hey, if you get the chance, you should come to this meet in Tennessee: http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184570. The fish diversity down here, especially on the Duck River, is amazing. I think I may be the only experienced seiner going so far, so it'll be good to have someone else down who knows what to do!
uncwnells;3159686; said:your stealing native homes for native species, its not right.
loach43;3160182; said:I'm not an experienced seiner per say but I learned quickly that using a single net with a handle is almost useless in any large body of water lol.
Noto;3160212; said:I'm confident in my ID. Bug ID is a hobby of mine, and crane flies are one of my favorite groups. Crane fly larvae get enormous, out of all proportion to the adult size. The only other fly larvae that big are horseflies and midas flies, which have much heftier adults.
It's amazing how many more fish you can catch with a seine, not just in numbers but different species too. Even better- night seining! You'll get some species that you almost never see in the daytime, especially madtoms.

Noto;3160260; said:All I did in 4-H was incubate some chicken eggs.![]()


This is signature worthy.Haha, I had a 4-H bug collection among my dozens of other projects.loach43;3160240; said:Were you a 4-H entomology dork like I was when you were a kid??![]()
let_fish;3162394; said:when are you going again would love to join you...