Heres a pic of 1 of the baby snails I put in a show tank.Ask your LFS if he has a supplier in Indonesia,from Singapore they are hard to get,as they mostly have to import them themselves. Or fly to Ottawa, I`ll sell you one !!!Colorful tank mates with Angels
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Heres a pic of 1 of the baby snails I put in a show tank.Ask your LFS if he has a supplier in Indonesia,from Singapore they are hard to get,as they mostly have to import them themselves. Or fly to Ottawa, I`ll sell you one !!!
That is a 225 gallon tank. The wild angels from Peru refered to as Peruvian Altums are actually P. Scalare not P. Altum. I have a group of 9 P. Scalare from Rio Nanay in Peru. The fish Pictured in my post are P. Altum from Rio Inridia.
I went to the expert, Msjinkzd and asked about Orange Rabbit Snails. This is what she told me:
"They come from a series of islands in Indonesia. The particular areas where they are from are formed from volcanic eruptions, and have very unique parameters. The water has an exceptionally high pH, of well over 8, but basically no hardness. That being said, they acclimate well to moderately hard water. Also, the water is quite warm, with 80 degrees being the coolest temperatures in the lakes, and also quite warm in the streams where the snails can also be collected. Depending on if they are collected from the streams or lakes, determines what temperature range is most appropriate, but generally 80-86 is a good range for the more common lake caught species. There are some isolated streams with cooler temps in the mid 70s, and the snails are impossible to tell apart by looking. They are sex specific snails, giving birth to singular young encapsulated in a protein like pouch, which dissolved upon birthing. The snails are social, often bumping heads and hanging out together. There is not a way to sex them without dissection, but their breeding is slow. In the wild, they often eat the silt/detritus in the stream or lake floors, which includes a lot of plant matter. In the tank, they will often accept pelleted herbivore foods, but are also known for eating aquarium plants, especially those which are softer leaved. They are also from relatively dark and rocky waters, so tend to not appreciate much light.
They are really cool snails, but can be a bit fragile. Also, they are prone to glossiphonia leeches, which are a snail specific leech. They are more common when they are collected in the dry season. They are not readily seen, as they tend to hang out deep within the snails shell. If you see the snails feeding poorly, becoming less active, or doing a weird head bobbing/jerking in and out of their shell type action, you should consider examining them for leeches. This requires a salt dip which is very stressful for the snail, making them produce extreme amounts of slime that make the leeches release. Keep in mind, the leeches only pose a threat to snails, not fish."
Most of what you were told is true.In reality they are wild fished in the 1000s, transported to the fish farms in Indonesia where they are stored in holding ponds.No particular care is taken for the water parameters there, which tends to condition them well for export.They are becoming very popular partly due to their behaviour, they are real fun to observe,but also the fact that they only give birth singulary around every 8-12 weeks,as live bearers the snail is surrounded in a mucus that is eaten by the young but also by other bottom dwellers.As to them eating aquarium plants,I disagree.We have had them in show tanks with various plants,without them being eaten.Try a salad leaf,or cucumber slice,we had 200 in the last shipment & most survived.Unsuitable tank mates however are mollys & plattys who tend to nip at the snails` antenie.Also avoid putting them with mexican dwarf lobsters who tend to attack spiral snails.
How many do you normally seed a tank with? I'm interested in them. I would also keep them away from loaches.
As they are impossible to sex,5 is a good number for tanks of 20 gallons plus if you want them to breed.There seems to be no studies as to their longitivity but from the few "babies" I found & transfered to some nano show tanks we have, they have grown to about 1 1/2" in a year.I haven`t seen any over 3" which is probably their mature size.One other point,small chips on their shells are normal caused by movement in their natural habitat.Most show some signs of "damage" ,no cause for alarm,it`s like a dent in your car,the shells are mainly for protection.
i will be starting the set up today for the tank. As of right now i have in stock at my house 5 platinum blue diamond angels, 1 albino bushy nose, 12 serpae tetras, 8 cory cats (Sterbai), and 1 asian bumblebee catfish. I just talked with my LFS and he will hopefully he will be able to get the orange rabbit snails by wednesday. will post pics soon!!
Here's a few pics of the tank and a few more other pics of my fish room/man town. I will be adding the fish tomorrow morning possible tonight, if conditions allow(need to test water).
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