Wow that's actually really cool. Anymore pics?I'm gonna spamHendre thread with the Designer Gucci version. Bam here it is!
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"Common" CB Senegals vs Nigerian wild caught. Diff Sp?
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Ya, dont see why not. Let's shower hendre with more spams of this Gucci Designer poly.......
P. senegalus is p. Senegalus regardless of where its caught. Endlicheri "black volta" is not a different species from endlicheri "faranah"
Ops question wether his wc senegalus is different from his cb.... of course as all of our cb are different from wc.
His wc sen is not a different subspecies....what hes seeing is a difference between a wc fish and a cb fish. Same can be found in wc cichlids bs cb
Even among wild caught specimens from the same area, you'll see slightly variation in headshape.
Lol do you remember the list king-el put together on FB showing all the catch locations. Can you post it here.
Really? Again if the genetic differences are great enough, then they must be considered seperate species, or at least subspecies under one umbrella genus.
Also, Endlicheri "black volta" and "faranah" might well be considered subspecies of P. Endlicheri, again so long as the genetic differences are sufficiently great. Just because some scientist hasn't gotten around to scrutinize the taxonomy any further, doesn't mean that they're not genetically distinct from each other. Same applies to P. Senegalus. Naturally, captive bred variants can not be considered true species, I don't know if that's the case with either "faranah" or "black volta".
No they are not a different subspecies. Again a black volta and faranah endli are the same fish. Yes maybe the bands are thicker on a black volta but they are still the same fish.
Guys we are talking about a sen. What basis do we have to say op's sen is a different species ? Its tail is didferent from the cb sen ? This is a reach at best.
Even two faranah endli or pbb or congicus will have differences. It does not mean they are different species no matter how much we want it to be.
Look at teugs they also have multiple collection points.....all are still a teug.
Even if we wanted to entertain the idea of there being senegalus sub species....what are we comparing ops wc sen to....nothing all he has is a cb and a prof stating that there are genetic differences but we already know that by comparing cb to wc in any other polypterus species.
Sen is a sen. Endli is an endli.
My pbb looks nothing like
dmcskoolkid
pbb. Both came from the same batch. Both are pbb. His is much nicer. Has more of a brown base and more striking greens...still both are pbb.Look at any of our poly threads you'll see multiple polts of the same species, from the same collection points that still have differences.
Polyaddict86
has multiple nigerian endlis. Patterns were different on one...both are endli caught in nigeria. Having oddly shaped or slight variations in patterns does not mean a particular fish is a subspecies or different species
Ive read many books on the hobby....have you read any one polypterus ? I think not and even if you have you's see that the most common book is outdated and allot of the info has been revised.
Asking me if ive read a book is your answer to examples that are disproving this myth...? Mhhh please explain what basis you have to say ops sen is a different subspecies ?
https://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/polypterus-congicus-photo-thread.275353/page-12
Reas the mist recent commwents between
Hao
and myself.Yet another example. I have two congi. One dark onw very light. It was explained to me that some congi collection points are in murkier swamp type od waters. Causing them to have a different color.....Both are congicus.
