Complete and total noob, need lots of help!
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Biggest factor is that it is not cost efficient at all. Costs you a fortune to get enough canisters for a group of rays. Costs you a small fraction to just buy a sump, or even less to build your own. In your case, at nearly $500 each, you spent almost $1000 on just 2 canisters. I dont know about you, but I'd definitely rather spend a fraction of that on a sump and keep the rest. Plus sumps give you bigger water volume. I dont know what you have in your 300, but i definitely wouldn't trust canisters to be able to handle the bioload of rays.VLDesign;4422024; said:And canisters are great on larger tanks, not sure why Gshock said they were not, but I have a 300 gallon tank with dual 2262 Eheims and it works perfectly.
Dont know what you paid for em, but thats what they go for over here. Like you said, 4 BABY rays. I'd like to see how good your canisters hold up after they start reaching adult size.VLDesign;4423457; said:Lol, I love it when people try to others what they paid for equipment..
And in my 300 I have a load of fish + 4 baby rays.
I am very confident that they can handle the bio load of anything I put in there.
Yes I have read about cycling. Dont really have a choice it will probably be cycling for a while because we are going to have to save up again for the rays after building the tank! Haha, the only thing on cycling I was confused about, should I get a few fish to chuck in there or I think someone said store bought amonia or something?
I would like to go the easier route and just make a plain pond. My boyfriend however has decided that he wants glass windows, so now we are thinking about maybe a DIY glass aquarium inside a built wooden frame. Not sure how well it would work, so whenever we actually start getting closer to finalizing ideas for it prior to building I will most likely have many more questions. For now though, we have a while to decide what we want to do.
As for filters, where would I be able to buy a sump filter?
I would like to go the easier route and just make a plain pond. My boyfriend however has decided that he wants glass windows, so now we are thinking about maybe a DIY glass aquarium inside a built wooden frame. Not sure how well it would work, so whenever we actually start getting closer to finalizing ideas for it prior to building I will most likely have many more questions. For now though, we have a while to decide what we want to do.
As for filters, where would I be able to buy a sump filter?
If you can talk him back out of windows, I'm in NJ and have this 300 gallon stock tank available for $150: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ELV1MsZhV14-FFl5wKkYsA?feat=directlink
You can build a sump in about 20 minutes - here's my ghetto sump that filters my 300 gallon ray tank: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7dXCDuprQk49HUiD6ZqZAw?feat=directlink
If you still want the windows but don't trust your DIY, you could do worse than grabbing one of these 8'x4' windowed ponds that already have their sump:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347509
Store-bought ammonia is definitely the way to go for cycling the tank, especially for rays. In NJ Ace Hardware definitely carries it, that's where I've bought mine in the past. Search for "fishless cycling" to learn what to do with it.
You can build a sump in about 20 minutes - here's my ghetto sump that filters my 300 gallon ray tank: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7dXCDuprQk49HUiD6ZqZAw?feat=directlink
If you still want the windows but don't trust your DIY, you could do worse than grabbing one of these 8'x4' windowed ponds that already have their sump:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347509
Store-bought ammonia is definitely the way to go for cycling the tank, especially for rays. In NJ Ace Hardware definitely carries it, that's where I've bought mine in the past. Search for "fishless cycling" to learn what to do with it.
He is all over the place and getting all excited over building a plywood tank now so we will see what happens. Still got a while to go before purchases and building will start since we still have a few other things we need to buy first when we move in.
Oh man, those window'd ponds would be nice, but expensive and 8' long will most likely be a bit too long. We are thinking about building a square one as originally planned too. We are thinking of a plywood tank in a square, with a front viewing window, that is pretty low to the ground so still has a 'pond' feel to it, not sure how to describe it.
Ill check out Ace Hardware thanks, wow you live pretty close to me. Im right over in Union.
Oh man, those window'd ponds would be nice, but expensive and 8' long will most likely be a bit too long. We are thinking about building a square one as originally planned too. We are thinking of a plywood tank in a square, with a front viewing window, that is pretty low to the ground so still has a 'pond' feel to it, not sure how to describe it.
Ill check out Ace Hardware thanks, wow you live pretty close to me. Im right over in Union.
So you're right on top of Shark Aquarium. Just so you know, you're not going to find Scobina anywhere unless it's a private sale and Shark Aquarium's so-called Hystrix this week are not Hystrix (I've never seen an actual Hystrix in there despite the labels frequently stuck on the tanks).
8' sounds long but most rays grow quickly so it doesn't hurt to plan ahead.
8' sounds long but most rays grow quickly so it doesn't hurt to plan ahead.
