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Genetically, it will be a little more complicated than just one or two generations - but I'd love to see the end result, too.

Actually it is that simple!!! If they breed and i get offspring then the offspring breed i can definitely make Blue marbles. Both genes are reccessive so it can happen in the second generation but the percentage will be small.
 
Actually it is that simple!!! If they breed and i get offspring then the offspring breed i can definitely make Blue marbles. Both genes are reccessive so it can happen in the second generation but the percentage will be small.

If you breed them and get some blue marble genes let me know


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Why do you say blue is a recessive gene? HRP's are likely a different species from convicts altogether.


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Im a big convict fan, and the fact that you think that HRPs are a different gene is really funny. Jeff Rapps and any other big breeder will tell you that an HRP is a color mutation just like the pink version lol how can you even think its a different species when its a basically a blue convict? there is no difference between a regular convict and an HRP except the color.
 
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All I will say, is that if it really were that simple, they'd be around by now.

Ernie - you should check with Jeff Rapps before saying anything about what he believes. (Hint: look at his price list.)

Not trying to stir things up - just putting a few facts out.
 
Im a big convict fan, and the fact that you think that HRPs are a different gene is really funny. Jeff Rapps and any other big breeder will tell you that an HRP is a color mutation just like the pink version lol how can you even think its a different species when its a basically a blue convict? there is no difference between a regular convict and an HRP except the color.

no..maybe do some research before stating fact convicts are Archocentrus nigrofasciatus

HRPS are Cryptoheros sp. 'honduran red point'

they can mix but they are hybrids NOT a color morph..don't know who you got your information from but its wrong.

HRP act allot different than cons,
 
Use a siphon tube, and control the flow (intake) with your thumb, and shoo away any fish that get close. Then fill it back up using your hand to break up the flow of water.
 
Ernie, you are the one that needs to do a little more research. I've had conversations with Sam Borstien, Dr. Eric Hanneman, Rusty Wessel, and Ken Davis (do a Google search if you don't know who they are) about HRP's (and a variety of other fish that were collected by these gentlemen and introduced into the hobby) and all believe that HRP's are a separate species. In fact, the convict group has recently been broken into 4 separate species, and it is likely that there are more. I've personnally kept more than 6 different wild type convicts in addition to a number of other cryptoheros, and I can see differences in the fish from a physical and behavioral perspective (which I understand doesn't make them a different species, genetics does). Jeff Rapps does not think HRP's are a color variation of convicts based on how he lists them by scientific name on his price list. Not sure what other "big breeders" you speak of, but I have not come across them.

Get your facts straight before you put out more incorrect information.
 
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