Could someone translate this to english?

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Hi all!

I think the situation is very simpel;

1) Illegal collecting and smuggling = more excuses for harder laws
2) Harder laws = more prohibitions
3) More prohibitions = more problems for us who works with collecting/export/guiding
3) More problems for us = less work, less fishes, worse for the hobby

Heikos illegal collecting in Brazil is not his first....and the IBAMA know it (its just to take a look at his site and thats it!).
Its not about "brazilians against foreigners", is not about "we like the law or not", its not about "third world against first world", is not about "brazilians research is better than foreigners research", is not about "Brazils double moral when they discuss natur resource", is not about "sympathy or empathy for Heiko and his wife".....is just about that you dont fight against all that trough smuggling!

(this is from the;
http://acaforum.com/index.php?showtopic=3062
 
Recent news and Link:
http://www.xylema.net/index.php/Outros/Heiko-Bleher-Preso-no-Brasil.html#JOSC_TOP


Heiko Imprisoned Bleher in Brazil 02 of September of 2008 It does not advance, seems impossible world to comreender it that Brazil is a country. Still the image lasts shamefully of that here it is a land that any one enters, makes what it wants, catches what it wants and it leaves without giving the lesser satisfaction. But the things are changing a little, without wanting to enter in the merit politician of the question, something need to be clearly: Respect to Brazil, its borders and its Laws. The respected one and world-wide known consolidated German researcher in Italy, Heiko Bleher, was imprisoned day 29/08 when it tried to embark for Europe in the airport Eduardo Gomes, in Belém of Pará. The researcher was white of a joint action of the Brazilian Institute of the Environment, IBAMA, and of the Federal Policy. In its luggage he was apprehended material of biological origin collected and carried without authorization from the regulating agencies. As notified the material he understood weaveeed fixed of diverse species of ornamental fish not yet known of science. The situation could only be plus a case, was not the arrogance with which the researcher used to justify its acts, it said: " … I am researcher of the world, not necessary of license! " Brazil never was and nor is contrary the research and development, beyond the popular claim of the existing buocracia in the licensing processes, exists the ofical interest of that the knowledge generated for the patrimony Brazilian either shared by the Brazilians, and this is one of the great reasons for which companies multinationals and researchers try of all the forms to prevent the official processes of licensing. The habit to catch and to leave without saying nothing… It is a bad habit that it needs and it must be fought. Heiko Bleher works in conjuto with diverse companies and laboratories of research and possesss periodic publications in some scientific, its publications are very well referenciadas by the only quality of literal and photographic information. It confers the site: Aqua Press The Bleher family has a long description of research and spreading of the fauna and Brazilian flora, is respected world-wide by the scientific community and the hobistas of the whole world, but this in hypothesis leaves them to some above of any law. Gratefulness to the Enrique Anatole for link.
 
That looks like a bunch of gibberish to me, can someone translate that better?

I don't see how some one can try to make a government out like they're the bad guy when they don't follow the laws as a visitor...Bleher is just flat out wrong in this situation - as is everyone who tries this B.S.
 
I agree that what heiko did was wrong but i am glad he is free, i have lost a little respect for him but i do not think we can deny that he is a great man and has done e great deal for this hobby.
 
dirtyblacksocks;2157365; said:
That looks like a bunch of gibberish to me, can someone translate that better?

I don't see how some one can try to make a government out like they're the bad guy when they don't follow the laws as a visitor...Bleher is just flat out wrong in this situation - as is everyone who tries this B.S.


It's no use, it seems like it's impossible for world to comprehend that Brasil is a country. Shamefully (unfortunately), it's current image is that of a country where anyone can come in, do what they want, take what they want, and leave without [even explaining themselves]. But things are slowly changing, and without wanting to get into the political aspect, one thing must remain clear: Respect Brasil, it's borders (boundaries), and it's laws.

The respected and world renowned German researcher who is based in Italy, Heiko Bleher, was arrested on 8/28 trying to board his flight to Europe at the Eduardo Gomes Airport in Belem do Para. He was a target of a joint action (a sting I guess) of the Brasilian Environmental Institute, IBAMA, and the federal police. In his baggage was found biological material collected and transported without authorization from the departments in charge of such matters. As expected (more like someone had warned the authorities about this), the stuff he had was compromised of preserved tissue of many ornamental fish still not yet known to science (instead of preserved tissue, more like preserved specimens).

(I like this part) :D
The situation could have been just another case (not a big deal) if it hadn't been for the arrogance of the researcher in justifying his actions, he said "I am a [famous, world renowned] researcher, I don't need permission". Brasil has never been against research and progress, but aside from the popular complaint by the current buorocracy about the licensing process, there is an official interest that the knowledge gained from brasilian property be shared by brasilians (pretty much they are saying that the government wants discoveries in brasil to be credited to brasilians, instead I guess of foreign researchers getting all the credit and doing as they please), and this is one of the main reasons why multinacional businesses/companies/organizations and researchers try at all costs to avoid the official licensing processes. Getting what they want and leaving without saying anything is a bad habit/practice that must be fought against.

Heiko Bleher works together with diverse/many organizations and research laboratories and has published works in many scientific journals. His publications are very well refererenced (held in high regard) for the quality of their information and unique photographs.
As stated in the website Aquapress: Bleher's family has a long history of research and discovery of brasilian fauna and flora (plants and animals), and they (his family) are respected all around the world (world-renowned) by the scientific community and by hobbyists all over the world, but this in no way puts him above any law.
hope you enjoy my translation
 
Hi all of you,

this is Heiko Bleher and I am reading your lengthy thread and would like to make some comments, after 3 fantastic expeditions and 3 and one have day in probably what must be one of the worst and unhuman prisons on earth...

First of all I like to correct some of the wast wrong information on the world-wide web and on this great site:
1. I (and Natasha) embarqued in Manaus, not Belem.
2. It was the Federal Police who stopped us and unloaded our bagagge and surched it, the IBAMA was only informed much later and had originally nothing to do with it.
3. The declaration that they were chasing me for over a year is a lie (probably was made up to make it look better for them, so the Delegada gets another medal and a rise = we are shortly before the October elections... and she did not let me telephone, not call an attorney, embassy or anyone, not even family, just through us in prison with the worst criminals at midnight 29th to 30th of August, without cloth, higiene, nothing, this is the Federal Police of Brazil...).
I was several times in Brazil during this last year on expedition (some can be seen on my website: www.aquapress-bleher.com), everyone knew it. I never did hide or deny my expeditions.
4. I did NOT break the "Lei Ambiental", it does NOR prohibit to take preserved (dead) fishes. And I have a fishing license (*still good to October). So you all should NOT take fast conclusions or condem, whithout knowing the facts, or just the (very often) falso and blown-up news.
The conserved fishes were strictly for for identification (and that they claim that there are new species i a joke, as they have not even examinated them jet...).
With with the president of IBAMA I flew to Barcelos, we had diner together and much more, he has my book on Amazonia, knows me very well etc.,etc.).
That there is genetic material and that from it a lot of money is another (biggest) joke. From dead small fishes? You all tell me how...
And now the dead fishes are at INPA to be classified...

We will be here in Manaus til this weekend until itl is settled and I get my materials (cameras, laptop, cell-phones, etc) back. There is no hearing by the judge (if it ever will be, probably take 5 to 15 years, as ususal). Maybe in the future I have to be at the judges disposal at some time, but that is no problem for me as I come so often to South America and Amazonia (even more than New Guinea and fareast) and can arrange it accordingly. If I do 2, 3 or 10 expeditions, that is no hinder, almost better.
So my work will continue as usual and I will record as much of our global aquatic environment as long as I can and I am sure until my last day, and always (hopefully) not before it is to late in each place - that is why I go so far were no one goes, but never in restricted, protected or prohibited areas. No one can stop my work, as I do NOT do anything illegal. Only there are some people which want to place me in such a category, of smuggeling, bio-piracy, etc. Probably because they are jeaulous, do not like me or are unable to do the same what I do, therefore want to harm me just to satify their eager. And, as mentioned, there are some who need to get a rise, a medal also because they wait to be elected and are unable to get the real criminals...

All the very best and thanks to those who have supported my work (which never made me rich, and what I have I spend in research expeditions, scientic publications I sponsor for almost 20 years now, and in messages to fish and nature lovers around the world).

Always

Heiko Bleher
 
Mr.Bleher;
I took a look at your web site; www.aquapress-bleher.com
and I saw that you have Uruguay as one of the countries in South America there you made collecting (3 times)....is that info right or wrong?

Pd; sorry...I made the same question at http://www.rainbowfish.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1238&p=10226#p10226
but you maybe dont look at that forum every day....so thats the reason why I make the same question in this forum.

Regards,
Felipe Cantera
www.aqvaterra.com
Salinas-URUGUAY
 
Heiko Bleher;2158897; said:
Hi all of you,

this is Heiko Bleher and I am reading your lengthy thread and would like to make some comments, after 3 fantastic expeditions and 3 and one have day in probably what must be one of the worst and unhuman prisons on earth...

First of all I like to correct some of the wast wrong information on the world-wide web and on this great site:
1. I (and Natasha) embarqued in Manaus, not Belem.
2. It was the Federal Police who stopped us and unloaded our bagagge and surched it, the IBAMA was only informed much later and had originally nothing to do with it.
3. The declaration that they were chasing me for over a year is a lie (probably was made up to make it look better for them, so the Delegada gets another medal and a rise = we are shortly before the October elections... and she did not let me telephone, not call an attorney, embassy or anyone, not even family, just through us in prison with the worst criminals at midnight 29th to 30th of August, without cloth, higiene, nothing, this is the Federal Police of Brazil...).
I was several times in Brazil during this last year on expedition (some can be seen on my website: www.aquapress-bleher.com), everyone knew it. I never did hide or deny my expeditions.
4. I did NOT break the "Lei Ambiental", it does NOR prohibit to take preserved (dead) fishes. And I have a fishing license (*still good to October). So you all should NOT take fast conclusions or condem, whithout knowing the facts, or just the (very often) falso and blown-up news.
The conserved fishes were strictly for for identification (and that they claim that there are new species i a joke, as they have not even examinated them jet...).
With with the president of IBAMA I flew to Barcelos, we had diner together and much more, he has my book on Amazonia, knows me very well etc.,etc.).
That there is genetic material and that from it a lot of money is another (biggest) joke. From dead small fishes? You all tell me how...
And now the dead fishes are at INPA to be classified...

We will be here in Manaus til this weekend until itl is settled and I get my materials (cameras, laptop, cell-phones, etc) back. There is no hearing by the judge (if it ever will be, probably take 5 to 15 years, as ususal). Maybe in the future I have to be at the judges disposal at some time, but that is no problem for me as I come so often to South America and Amazonia (even more than New Guinea and fareast) and can arrange it accordingly. If I do 2, 3 or 10 expeditions, that is no hinder, almost better.
So my work will continue as usual and I will record as much of our global aquatic environment as long as I can and I am sure until my last day, and always (hopefully) not before it is to late in each place - that is why I go so far were no one goes, but never in restricted, protected or prohibited areas. No one can stop my work, as I do NOT do anything illegal. Only there are some people which want to place me in such a category, of smuggeling, bio-piracy, etc. Probably because they are jeaulous, do not like me or are unable to do the same what I do, therefore want to harm me just to satify their eager. And, as mentioned, there are some who need to get a rise, a medal also because they wait to be elected and are unable to get the real criminals...

All the very best and thanks to those who have supported my work (which never made me rich, and what I have I spend in research expeditions, scientic publications I sponsor for almost 20 years now, and in messages to fish and nature lovers around the world).

Always

Heiko Bleher

It's good to see you free mr bleher, but be honest; do you feel you did anything wrong? I am in no position to judge you, since I know first hand that the media exaggerates fact for it's own good. Did you really say things like
"I am a [famous, world renowned] researcher, I don't need permission"
?
Sometimes an apology is the best solution. But again, I do not know all the facts.
 
Onion01;2159731; said:
It's good to see you free mr bleher, but be honest; do you feel you did anything wrong? I am in no position to judge you, since I know first hand that the media exaggerates fact for it's own good. Did you really say things like ?
Sometimes an apology is the best solution. But again, I do not know all the facts.

it seems like you answered your own statement ;)
 
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