Crocodilians in Aquaria

[Aw3s0m3]

Thanks for updating me on the snake tank size reason. But would there be a snake or a pair of snakes more appropriate for this size tank? Im no expert at all on snakes but I believe a tank that size could house a red tail boa. But that's also an intermediate- advanced breed capable of killing a human.

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I think the coolest setup would be a palidarium with some sick ass tropical fish and a pair of green tree pythons or emerald tree boas, but those are far from being considered beginner snakes. You can possibly consider a carpet python, maybe 2 as long as it's a male/female pair or 2 females. They're extremely easy to care for and only reach about 6ft.


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[crayfishguy]

That tank is definitely way too big for a pair of ball pythons unless he's got lots and lots of hiding spots which pretty much means that he'll never see them. Personally, I think ball pythons are basically pet rocks. But I agree with you about snakes being good beginner pets. The easy ones at least like ball pythons, corn snakes, king snakes, etc.

To answer your comment about why they get stressed out in too big of tanks, its cuz snakes naturally like being in tight spaces. That way they feel less vulnerable because there are many animals out there that'll consider a snake as food. Including the big ones. There's plenty of footage of alligators in the Everglades eating large adult Burmese pythons. The only reason they'll come out of hiding is to drink, hunt and heat up.


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I've said it once and I'll say it agian. there is absolutely no reason not to give an animal a large enclosure. If there are hides, it has the option to use them just as it would in the wild. You could give a scorpion a 10'x4' cage and It would be perfectly happy. Do you need a cage that size? no, of course not. But there is no harm in supplying it.

 

[Aw3s0m3]

I've said it once and I'll say it agian. there is absolutely no reason not to give an animal a large enclosure. If there are hides, it has the option to use them just as it would in the wild. You could give a scorpion a 10'x4' cage and It would be perfectly happy. Do you need a cage that size? no, of course not. But there is no harm in supplying it.

That's why I said "unless there were lots and lots of hiding spots" and I specifically said "for ball pythons." That's from mine and others I know experiences because ball pythons do not move around a lot. My brothers literally doesn't move. It just sits in its hide and only comes out to shed and eat when it smells the rat. When it eats, it doesn't even strike anymore. He just approaches the rat and starts eating. So to put a snake like that in a cage that big, I think, is pointless and why I said its too big.


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[D.Wolf]

If you have decent setup (lets say a room just for animal or giant cage in room) i would go for legvan but there can be years that they trust you enough to hold and play with them - and even then it is just you and usually nobody else but definetely have that "wow" factor

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[BuffaloPolypteridae]

Honestly it seems like he wants an aquatic reptile predator, and if your thinking snakes, I would go with a banded or brown water snake. Or false water cobra, but those are CRAZY expensive. I have a Chesapeake bay water snake, about a foot long, caught him at 4 inches. He eats rosies and any other dead fish, I can hand feed him and pet him for a couple times but no go on actual handling. He bites, hard sometimes. Feeding is pretty wild, once a week I drop 20 minnows in his water feature, he hears the splash and dives right in and starts nomming. It usually takes him like 2-3 days to get em all, he just hops in and out at his leisure

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[Aw3s0m3]

Honestly it seems like he wants an aquatic reptile predator, and if your thinking snakes, I would go with a banded or brown water snake. Or false water cobra, but those are CRAZY expensive. I have a Chesapeake bay water snake, about a foot long, caught him at 4 inches. He eats rosies and any other dead fish, I can hand feed him and pet him for a couple times but no go on actual handling. He bites, hard sometimes. Feeding is pretty wild, once a week I drop 20 minnows in his water feature, he hears the splash and dives right in and starts nomming. It usually takes him like 2-3 days to get em all, he just hops in and out at his leisure

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If a water snake is what we're thinking, I think a puff faced water snake would be the ****! They spend about 95% of their lives under water and its like having a sea snake without the potential of death. I'm actually in the process of trying to find one right now and he would be able to set it up exactly as if he was gonna get the caimen. Except they NEVER bask so a ceramic heater won't be needed as long as the water is heated.


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[crayfishguy]

That's why I said "unless there were lots and lots of hiding spots" and I specifically said "for ball pythons." That's from mine and others I know experiences because ball pythons do not move around a lot. My brothers literally doesn't move. It just sits in its hide and only comes out to shed and eat when it smells the rat. When it eats, it doesn't even strike anymore. He just approaches the rat and starts eating. So to put a snake like that in a cage that big, I think, is pointless and why I said its too big.


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They are not very sactive snakes, but I have noticed that alot of people feed theirs too much, and that contributes to their rep. as pet rocks. You just need to re word that... It is bigger than needed, but it is not too big.

 

[BuffaloPolypteridae]

Hell the nerodius sp. Chesapeake I have doesn't need any heat. At all, other then the natural heat in my room. Honestly, other then the fact he is so damn fast, keeping this snake has been extremely easy, I have a small turtle filter in his water feature and do a weekly change on that, (only like 5 gallons). I've literally watched him go after minnows for an hour straight, eating 5 in the process. That does sound cool though, but it also sounds pricey haha you can get a red banded water snake on backwaterreptiles for 15$.

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