designing tank for museum
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mfk4life;3085749; said:
I can't say for sure but I have a couple of other pics ill post here I thought the color was strange and have been waiting for it go this silver color, will have to see its gonna have a long happy life for sure and by the time it outgrows the museum tank I will have my 5-7,000g home green pond done.
I will make sure to take some shots close of the fish though my camera bites but if I know arow at all he will get big enough for a bad camera to look good
rgonzales;3085664; said:
it has to do with the availability of fish here in regina, its a bugger to get anything shipped here and I found the 2 florida spotted gar after I got the needlenose, figured a gar is a gar and the variety would look good in the tank he should get a good 12-14 inch so will fit nice in the tank and if the spotted grow to their max size I will have to rehome them later.
CORVETTE;3083379; said:
sorry I seem to have skipped this post, for sure if you are in this area feel free to come by I will even buy ya lunch at my restaurant, though the restaurant is kind of a work in progress which is charted to be done come summers end for when school goes back into session. I have a 180g and 168g that are drilled for sump and that is one area I know nothing about so have to get the stuff to seal the sump pipes on the tanks then get them set up
ok, so I went last night installed the rena 3 and put the other fish in so the tank now has saskatchewan spotted gar, 2 spotless clownknife, needlenose gar, arow, and 2 ripsaw cats. I have 2 more florida spotted gars to go in but the bichir will take some time to grow a bit more and I might not put them in but here are the pics of last nights install
a cool welcom highlander pipe band in the parking lot
the fish and the tank sorry my camera is so flash happy
I am going to try bringing along another light to take pictures by as I just can not get my camera to take good shots.
here is the filter system that was on the tank already for those interested
now here is THE MONEY SHOT, I was doing some tank stuff and I could hear this little voice in front of the tank came around and here is a little dude going MOMMY BIG FISH MOMMY MOMMY MOMMY and they were nice enough to let me snap a shot, but the little guy was so enthralled that he did not even notice me schweeeeeeeeeeeeet, I love the little girl and the looks on the mothers faces! cause to me thats what this is all about.
the tanks in the fish room almost ready they have been super cycled and should be clear for wc and stocking in a day
a cool welcom highlander pipe band in the parking lot
the fish and the tank sorry my camera is so flash happy
I am going to try bringing along another light to take pictures by as I just can not get my camera to take good shots.
here is the filter system that was on the tank already for those interested
now here is THE MONEY SHOT, I was doing some tank stuff and I could hear this little voice in front of the tank came around and here is a little dude going MOMMY BIG FISH MOMMY MOMMY MOMMY and they were nice enough to let me snap a shot, but the little guy was so enthralled that he did not even notice me schweeeeeeeeeeeeet, I love the little girl and the looks on the mothers faces! cause to me thats what this is all about.
the tanks in the fish room almost ready they have been super cycled and should be clear for wc and stocking in a day
well my suspicions of jennifers actions when I put in the arow were correct, she did not chomp and disable a feeder and spit it out in the arow direction because she was being nice. I have kept an eye on the tank and made my decision on sat that I would pull the arow if it was still alive come tues wc.
Went in tonight and the arow now has a strike mark on its back, so I pulled it and rehomed it back at the restaurant
none of the other fish so any signs of stress or being hassled, I kind of thought the gar would take great exception to another top feeder type fish that is not of the same species.
I will be able to populate the fish room tanks come this weekend the feeders I left in there a while ago have lived to tell the tale, that is until I removed them and put them in the display tank.
I have a colony of molly, platties and minnows set up to go in one of the tanks and will use the other for trying to establish a breeding colony of goldies from the remaining supply that the pet store they used to deal with has in hold for them approx 500
Went in tonight and the arow now has a strike mark on its back, so I pulled it and rehomed it back at the restaurant
none of the other fish so any signs of stress or being hassled, I kind of thought the gar would take great exception to another top feeder type fish that is not of the same species.
I will be able to populate the fish room tanks come this weekend the feeders I left in there a while ago have lived to tell the tale, that is until I removed them and put them in the display tank.
I have a colony of molly, platties and minnows set up to go in one of the tanks and will use the other for trying to establish a breeding colony of goldies from the remaining supply that the pet store they used to deal with has in hold for them approx 500
mfk4life;3085749; said:
now that I have the arow back at my cafe I can take some clearer shots of it for you I know very little to not much about arowana
I got a new pentax camera and snapped a pic of the arrow for ya
here is a sort of update on the museum
the three tanks in the fish room are fully ready for fish so I installed the mollies so see if they breed or not, convicts will go in this week and I am moving the 2 gars I am growing for the tank there as well
I call this string of shots its a bad day to be a goldie lol
In this last picture it looks to me like the split in the gars tail has begun to regrow. I thought it was perma split but as I have been watchin this gar I really think it has put on 1/2 in length and that the tail is growing back will have to watch to see .
The museum has plans to replicate a backdrop that fits the surrounding displays and I have been talkin with them about either droping in real fossils or getting resin copies.
Now that summer is on its way I should be able to find some good plants for the tank as well. I tried a floating fern on top but the filter just pulled it all to the intake tube so that is a bust. Looking for some to afix to the wood and some for surface
Man I am so fascinated watching the behaviour of my fish.
The aro that I brought back to the restaurant has been acting all antagonistic to the gars, almost like it had a huge chip on its shoulder from jennifer hitting it. Though there was an abundance of feeders in the tank here it would try to steal the gars food right from their mouth, so I decided it was time to move the gars to the museum fish room.
Here is a string of shots from the fish room.
15g lovenest for the mollies 1 male 3 female, though I am kind of thinking that they will not reproduce fast enough for it to be a good usage of the tank. May just keep it as a rosie red hospital tank when I bring feeder minnnows from the store, as a place to cure them of any parasites and to gut load with top food. If so I will take the mollies and acclimate them for my brackish tank at home.
The two gars I placed in the 1 60g and it is funny it is almost like they are playing with the other fish before they hone in for the kill. I got the funniest picture where the one gar who had been swimming with this group for about 10 minutes had one of them turn as if to say hi and them bam snapped up here is the string of shots
then I just took a string of shots to get an id from you gar experts most probably this is a florida gar pair but I have no idea on how to id gars so here are some shots for ya experts.
and here is a feeder goldfish that I have decided to have mercy on and let him live out his life in the fish room tank to grow to a ripe old age. I just thought he looked cool with his orange eyes and long flowing tail.
I located a top notch plant supplier in the states so my plants are about 2 weeks away I will definitely post pics of the install. I will also redo the driftwood at the same time.
The aro that I brought back to the restaurant has been acting all antagonistic to the gars, almost like it had a huge chip on its shoulder from jennifer hitting it. Though there was an abundance of feeders in the tank here it would try to steal the gars food right from their mouth, so I decided it was time to move the gars to the museum fish room.
Here is a string of shots from the fish room.
15g lovenest for the mollies 1 male 3 female, though I am kind of thinking that they will not reproduce fast enough for it to be a good usage of the tank. May just keep it as a rosie red hospital tank when I bring feeder minnnows from the store, as a place to cure them of any parasites and to gut load with top food. If so I will take the mollies and acclimate them for my brackish tank at home.
The two gars I placed in the 1 60g and it is funny it is almost like they are playing with the other fish before they hone in for the kill. I got the funniest picture where the one gar who had been swimming with this group for about 10 minutes had one of them turn as if to say hi and them bam snapped up here is the string of shots
then I just took a string of shots to get an id from you gar experts most probably this is a florida gar pair but I have no idea on how to id gars so here are some shots for ya experts.
and here is a feeder goldfish that I have decided to have mercy on and let him live out his life in the fish room tank to grow to a ripe old age. I just thought he looked cool with his orange eyes and long flowing tail.
I located a top notch plant supplier in the states so my plants are about 2 weeks away I will definitely post pics of the install. I will also redo the driftwood at the same time.
Well there has been one thing that has just been at the back of my mind since I started this rebuild. Actually 2 things.
1-Agression from jennifer towards tankmates that are smaller than her. I had hoped that the aro would do ok but no such dice maybe when it gets bigger. I got a surprise tonight though. Apparently it is a gar eat gar world
!
I am not sure if it was intentional or if it was simply that the smaller needlenose got in the way when jennifer was aiming at a feeder. From all the time that I have watched the tank I have seen no sign of agression to the other gar, it really seemed like the two were getting along fine. Even the museum staff of which there are many, told me how the two gars would swim side by side and the smaller one would follow jennifer like a puppy. So I figured I had successfully been able to get them to cohabitate, well tonight I find out differently.
This is what I saw when I went to the tank, I always count fish first to see if they are all there
a clear strike mark on the needlenose
just to much of a size difference in my opinon, I really think it is that the smaller gar simply got in the way of a strike on a feeder but just to be sure I removed it an placed it in the fish room grow out tank.
Add to this that one of the museum employees came up to me and told me how funny it was to move her lazer pointer around to get the smaller gar to follow it and how the smaller gar must be stupid because unlike jennifer it does not stop when the glass comes in front of it
. I had to hold my words because I kind of enjoy this tank and the way it is shaping up.
so I now have the gar in the fish room but look at this nose
i was really worried because it was not going after any feeders in the main tank and it did not seem to be interest at all in this tank till wham it hit one
So I will most probably bring my baby home after it heals up in the fish room, the 2 spotted gars in the tank with it are about a month away from being big enough to go in the main tank I think. But there is an issue dealing with the sudden growth that jennifer is showing, I forgot my tape measure but I am sure she has put on at least another 1/4 inch and the ripped fin seems to be healed a bit more.
2-ever since I took over the rebuild there was something about one of the existing pieces of driftwood that just screamed at me, but I did not pick it off till tonight. It was the piece farthest to the right if you are facing the tank from the front. The blue silicone always kind of bothered me, but I just wrote it off as having had stuff siliconed to it to keep it in place in the tank.
Well tonight I decided to rearrange the drift wood to give more turn ratio to bulk in the tank so as to make it easier for the gars to do laps in the bottom when they are stalking prey. Well bingo I hit the blackout jackpot when I actually moved the wood out of the tank, that piece of wood was exceptionally heavy. When I was done tonight I took it with me to the lorass disposal bin and proceeded to smack the living daylights out of it to break it apart and I had the answer I knew as soon as I picked it up.
Someone had hollowed out the wood and poured molten lead into it and then siliconed the wood in an attempt to seal it. Personally, since lead poisoning happens from paint on toys am I totally against lead being put in a tank, let alone filling a piece of wood with it. I read a study one time on how lead buckshot from duck hunting that falls in the water was poisoning the fish and birds so I am glad I found this and got it out.
you know the white stuff that gets on the battery posts of a car battery, the cavity in the wood was full of stuff that looked just like that, the first pic is of the one piece that fell out it weighs about 5-6 lbs.
the rearrangement of the wood left the tank looking like this
now when I was done for the night with the main tank I did the wc in the fish room. I am building a group of feeders that I am not going to allow get eaten. I have a crazy idea to do a tank full only of fish that were suppose to be feeders just for a lark and call it feeders trough. Here are a couple of pics of the 3 goldies thus far who have made the grade to survive
and the one white cloud minnow that just about did not make it lololololol, out of the corner of my eye I caught this flash of something going out the tube with the old water
well next update when I do the next update
1-Agression from jennifer towards tankmates that are smaller than her. I had hoped that the aro would do ok but no such dice maybe when it gets bigger. I got a surprise tonight though. Apparently it is a gar eat gar world
!I am not sure if it was intentional or if it was simply that the smaller needlenose got in the way when jennifer was aiming at a feeder. From all the time that I have watched the tank I have seen no sign of agression to the other gar, it really seemed like the two were getting along fine. Even the museum staff of which there are many, told me how the two gars would swim side by side and the smaller one would follow jennifer like a puppy. So I figured I had successfully been able to get them to cohabitate, well tonight I find out differently.
This is what I saw when I went to the tank, I always count fish first to see if they are all there
a clear strike mark on the needlenose
just to much of a size difference in my opinon, I really think it is that the smaller gar simply got in the way of a strike on a feeder but just to be sure I removed it an placed it in the fish room grow out tank.
Add to this that one of the museum employees came up to me and told me how funny it was to move her lazer pointer around to get the smaller gar to follow it and how the smaller gar must be stupid because unlike jennifer it does not stop when the glass comes in front of it
. I had to hold my words because I kind of enjoy this tank and the way it is shaping up. so I now have the gar in the fish room but look at this nose
i was really worried because it was not going after any feeders in the main tank and it did not seem to be interest at all in this tank till wham it hit one
So I will most probably bring my baby home after it heals up in the fish room, the 2 spotted gars in the tank with it are about a month away from being big enough to go in the main tank I think. But there is an issue dealing with the sudden growth that jennifer is showing, I forgot my tape measure but I am sure she has put on at least another 1/4 inch and the ripped fin seems to be healed a bit more.
2-ever since I took over the rebuild there was something about one of the existing pieces of driftwood that just screamed at me, but I did not pick it off till tonight. It was the piece farthest to the right if you are facing the tank from the front. The blue silicone always kind of bothered me, but I just wrote it off as having had stuff siliconed to it to keep it in place in the tank.
Well tonight I decided to rearrange the drift wood to give more turn ratio to bulk in the tank so as to make it easier for the gars to do laps in the bottom when they are stalking prey. Well bingo I hit the blackout jackpot when I actually moved the wood out of the tank, that piece of wood was exceptionally heavy. When I was done tonight I took it with me to the lorass disposal bin and proceeded to smack the living daylights out of it to break it apart and I had the answer I knew as soon as I picked it up.
Someone had hollowed out the wood and poured molten lead into it and then siliconed the wood in an attempt to seal it. Personally, since lead poisoning happens from paint on toys am I totally against lead being put in a tank, let alone filling a piece of wood with it. I read a study one time on how lead buckshot from duck hunting that falls in the water was poisoning the fish and birds so I am glad I found this and got it out.
you know the white stuff that gets on the battery posts of a car battery, the cavity in the wood was full of stuff that looked just like that, the first pic is of the one piece that fell out it weighs about 5-6 lbs.
the rearrangement of the wood left the tank looking like this
now when I was done for the night with the main tank I did the wc in the fish room. I am building a group of feeders that I am not going to allow get eaten. I have a crazy idea to do a tank full only of fish that were suppose to be feeders just for a lark and call it feeders trough. Here are a couple of pics of the 3 goldies thus far who have made the grade to survive
and the one white cloud minnow that just about did not make it lololololol, out of the corner of my eye I caught this flash of something going out the tube with the old water
well next update when I do the next update
