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Yoda1
if you want really show stopping discus, look into some of the Asian bred fish. I happen to have a lot of stendker discus from hans, too much variation. I have 10 checkerboards and only one actually looks like a true checkerboard. So it cost me $900 to get that one good fish!! The others look like regular pigeon bloods at best. Check out Tony Tan discus. They are the best in my opinion. Seem to be less variations. Stendker discus are WAY overrated. I have 19 stendkers currently, and over 30 various Asian bred discus. The Asians are superior hands down. Better colors, growth, and fewer losses. For the ridiculous prices we pay for discus, should be much higher standards than what we see. I've gotten some really crap fish from hans that make me say WTF? After losing an entire batch of stendker blue diamonds for no apparent reason, I've come to the conclusion that I'm an idiot to keep buying stenker discus. It was strange, out of the same order of CB, r turqs, and b diamonds, only the b diamonds died.