DIY Sump Designs

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which would you reccomend a 1500-1700 gallon pond?
and would a 2200 gph and a 700 gph pump work for my turnover needs?
 
wow thats a great deal. but is 2200 gph enough for my 1500 gallon pond. would a 3150 be better?
 
honestly for really good filtration you'll prolly need 2 of those 3150's but i think 2 of those 2200's would be enough. let the pond ppl chime in with their knowledge
 
really you think two? if i get one 3150 and maybe a 900 i would be put at just over three turn overs an hour. does anybody think this will work?
 
I think ideal for a pond is not like Tank turn over. i say 2 1500's or 2 1000's U should have 2 pump for ur pond. Make sure u have a Bottom drain dont just toss the pump into the pond and pump into filters. But if ur filter going to be small ur going to need 2x turn over if its a big mass u just need about 1.5x pond size pump.
 
so bizzarro what is a good filter size for a 1500 gallon pond? and if what your saying, about the turnover rate than i can get away with needing only one 3150 gph pump. i really havent got the slightest in size. im pretty sure that what i think is big enough really isnt. so please give me an idea.
 
Get 2 pumps. about 1500 or 1000g each. This sould saveyou from Breakdowns. Plus if ones fails u can still have a good rate. If u want one Pump Go out and get a 3000g Pool Pump. I think this can be installed on 2-4inch piping. Sometimes they can be better cuz Thos little pond pump do fail and the pool pumps last for Along time Plus warrenty. My next pond is going to have a 5000g turn over with a pool pump. Hope that helps but i need aittle more info on how u want the FIlters and stuff. Most ppl i know get pool pumps and the end of Filter for they can just install piping.
 
Bizzaro;662135; said:
Get 2 pumps. about 1500 or 1000g each. This sould saveyou from Breakdowns. Plus if ones fails u can still have a good rate. If u want one Pump Go out and get a 3000g Pool Pump. I think this can be installed on 2-4inch piping. Sometimes they can be better cuz Thos little pond pump do fail and the pool pumps last for Along time Plus warrenty. My next pond is going to have a 5000g turn over with a pool pump. Hope that helps but i need aittle more info on how u want the FIlters and stuff. Most ppl i know get pool pumps and the end of Filter for they can just install piping.
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http://www.josephandgabby.com/pond/diyfilters.htm site for bizarro's first drawing

Second drawing...Mats are way to expensive maintenance intensive..but they do work good.

http://users.owt.com/jjspond/filters/myfilter.html simular

http://www.watergarden.org/site/Filter_index.html Commercial ideas

http://www.ctaz.com/~missy/vfilter.jpg updraft model

http://leisure.prior-it.co.uk/trickle-filter.shtml DIY

http://www.geocities.com/bickal2000/pond.htm this guy sells instructions

http://www.skippysstuff.com/biofiltr.htm good DIY

http://pw1.netcom.com/~larry_l/diy_bead.htm a completely different type

http://www.shooterdog.com/biofiltr.htm bigger

http://kilk.com/pond Ultimate

There's a start to get you on the right track :D .

Pond turnovers are usually 1.5x - 2x with a light bio-load, scrubbies are good but start to get difficult to clean unless you string them together.

Try floor scrubbing pads, and wax applicators (different levels of courseness (?) examples... http://www.restockit.com/Floor-Maintenance-Applicators-Pads-and-Floor-Pads.html

Do your homework on the pump(s) redundency is a good thing. Two simular pumps with 1 running the filter and the other running a fountain and split back to the filter can be put into emergency use for the filter should something happen (and put on a timer for less usage (foutains don't have to run 24/7))...

Pool pumps may have too much pressure or too much flow for your pond.

Check cost of operation http://www.fishyou.com/aquarium-calculator.php $$$ calculator change cost per kW...Some pumps will eat you alive (one of my 'pool' pumps cost $125/mo to run).

And check out spa pumps also (2 speed).

Keep us posted,

Dr Joe

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thanks Doc.
im probably going to use a mixture of plant and bio-media filtration. what do you think?
also what size piping do i need coming out of my pond so i can achieve balance with the pump, which is 2200gph.
i will try and keep you all updated but the building of this sucker will most likely start in spring break. im just trying to get everything designed at this point.
Thanks
 
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