Do they have aro release programs over seas?
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Gr8KarmaSF;512618; said:
Corrupt practices, redtape etc. means they couldn't care less. To put it more bluntly, they got better things to do mentality. Places like Borneo is like the wild wild west
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Chaos32;512629; said:Places like Borneo is like the wild wild west
yes, i remember being in Bali before the big wave hit....
the BEST untouched nature diving ive ever seen
Gr8KarmaSF;512628; said:
Honestly, I doubt it. I know a lot of fish are illegal because of the ramifications that could happen if that particular species were released into the wild. I know crayfish and freshwater clams are illegal to import into AZ due to the impact it may have on the local wildlife...I was told that the clams can actually block up streams and rivers (don't know how factual that info is; it's coming from an lfs that I've lost great respect for...take it at face value)
Hi all. FIrst post! I wanted to chime in here, because I want asian aros to be legal here in the worst way.
First, the "release to the wild" concept is good, except that silvers would be illegal then too!
The second is for the farms in the east. If the farms helped bring the numbers up outside of the endangered list, then the sale of them to the us would be legal, and the farms would make TONS more money! Just think, a whole nother country full of fish fanatics like us willing to drop a grand or 2 on a pretty red. They'd sell more than they had to release! IT would be like stocking the market, not the wild... My 2 cents.
First, the "release to the wild" concept is good, except that silvers would be illegal then too!
The second is for the farms in the east. If the farms helped bring the numbers up outside of the endangered list, then the sale of them to the us would be legal, and the farms would make TONS more money! Just think, a whole nother country full of fish fanatics like us willing to drop a grand or 2 on a pretty red. They'd sell more than they had to release! IT would be like stocking the market, not the wild... My 2 cents.
There are no local gov't agencies or resources being used to determine the actual wild population numbers. There are no gov't efforts being made to culture wild Scleropages formosus for release back to wild habitats. If the asian aro was an american game fish, the gov't would have sponsored farms much the same as exists for channel cat farms, sturgeon farms, walleye farms, etc.
The sad part is those same gov't agencies do sponsor aquaculture farms of alien species for stocking into waters normally populated by aros (yellow perch, carp, trout, peacock bass, salmon, etc). If they put the same effort into mass producing asian aros the price for them could have a chance of dropping back to early 1980's prices (I paid $29.99 for my last green and $39.99 for my last blue-back).
The sad part is those same gov't agencies do sponsor aquaculture farms of alien species for stocking into waters normally populated by aros (yellow perch, carp, trout, peacock bass, salmon, etc). If they put the same effort into mass producing asian aros the price for them could have a chance of dropping back to early 1980's prices (I paid $29.99 for my last green and $39.99 for my last blue-back).
right. if the US gov would start a breeding program here, for asian aros and sold them for fair prices, wouldn't that eliminate the need/want for them from the black market? Doesn't make sense to me. It's obvious they can be farmed, so why not farm them to supply the hobby market and let the wild species play out in asia?
With the CITES classification and the Lacey Act/Endangered Species Act, the price for black market aros has sky-rocketed. Now, there's no reason for aro farmers to want to mass-produce wild color strains and repopulate the wild stocks since this would risk having the asian aro removed from the threatened species list. If that were to happen, asian aros would be just another farmed fish with no huge profit. If I was an aro farmer, looking at my farm from a strictly business standpoint, I would probably kill off huge numbers of fry just to keep the demand up. Why raise large numbers, requiring large food/utility/medicine costs, for a small profit when I can raise small numbers, for less costs, and make huge profits. Aro farmers are not necessarily hobbyists. They have running costs, possibly business loans, families that want better lives, and possibly shareholders all looking at the farm as simply a profit gain/loss entity.
The US gov't has less reason to start breeding these fish. Aro farms would take resourses away from farms raising native game fish. And those resources become less and less each year. Several huge hatcheries have shut down, in the last couple of years, due to dwindling profits, increased running costs, and less federal backing/tax relief. And, because of territoriality issues, raising aros would require more surface acreage than raising most food-destined fin fishes.
The US gov't has less reason to start breeding these fish. Aro farms would take resourses away from farms raising native game fish. And those resources become less and less each year. Several huge hatcheries have shut down, in the last couple of years, due to dwindling profits, increased running costs, and less federal backing/tax relief. And, because of territoriality issues, raising aros would require more surface acreage than raising most food-destined fin fishes.
