Do they have aro release programs over seas?

[Chaos32]

Also to add farms in the states would need expertise & the right climate etc. to duplicate the situation in the east.

 

[wizzin]

thanks guys (for entertaining this newb). I can see the problems. I can also understand the farms over east not wanting to turn fish loose that could either be poached or die and thus loose out on a ton of $$$$$. It does bring up (I think this has been asked already) the concept of if the fish do go completely extinct in the wild, would they still be endangered? If they're extinct except for farm raised, would that change things? I realize nobody is monitoring their numbers in the wild, but it should be obvious at some point.

Also wanted to bump this link up... The petition for legalization of imported farm raised aros.

http://www.petitiononline.com/AsianAro/petition.html

 

[Chaos32]

I have some news for you guys in the states. Had a conversation with a ex fishery guy here locally who now works for the aro industry. Was told there was a meeting recently between the local fishery guys & their counterparts in the states. Apparently the agenda was about aros specifically & the restocking of the wild population. Also present in that meeting were the players in the local aro industry.

Also was told that the fishery guys in the states had a meeting in Singapore as well. He hinted bout legal importation of aros from SG to the states by next year some time but was reluctant to give specifics. Perhaps dreams do come true.

 

[Jesse]

The US gov't has less reason to start breeding these fish. Aro farms would take resourses away from farms raising native game fish. And those resources become less and less each year. Several huge hatcheries have shut down, in the last couple of years, due to dwindling profits, increased running costs, and less federal backing/tax relief. And, because of territoriality issues, raising aros would require more surface acreage than raising most food-destined fin fishes.

U.S. regulation under the Endangered Species Act of anadromous fisheries, e.g., salmon/steelhead, differs from all other endangered species. Anadromous fisheries, both listed and unlisted, are under the jurisdiction of the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS), which is a division of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and located in the Department of Commerce. To the contrary, the regulation of all other endangered species is under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS), which is part of the Department of the Interior. The DOC and DOI have vastly different philosophies when it comes to enforcement of the Endangered Species Act. For example, in California, chinook salmon (winter, spring, and fall run) and Central Valley steelhead, both under NMFS jurisdiction, are listed as Endangered, but hatchery bred offspring (identified by a notch in the adipose fin) are allowed to be taken during the sport and commercial seasons. Imagine if the USFWS took a similar approach to the importation of captive bred Asian arowanas.

 

[Oddball]

U.S. regulation under the Endangered Species Act of anadromous fisheries, e.g., salmon/steelhead, differs from all other endangered species. Anadromous fisheries, both listed and unlisted, are under the jurisdiction of the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS), which is a division of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and located in the Department of Commerce. To the contrary, the regulation of all other endangered species is under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (USFWS), which is part of the Department of the Interior. The DOC and DOI have vastly different philosophies when it comes to enforcement of the Endangered Species Act. For example, in California, chinook salmon (winter, spring, and fall run) and Central Valley steelhead, both under NMFS jurisdiction, are listed as Endangered, but hatchery bred offspring (identified by a notch in the adipose fin) are allowed to be taken during the sport and commercial seasons. Imagine if the USFWS took a similar approach to the importation of captive bred Asian arowanas.

I can see it now...

 

[Jesse]

Thanks for the laugh, Phil!

 

[Gr8KarmaSF]

I have some news for you guys in the states. Had a conversation with a ex fishery guy here locally who now works for the aro industry. Was told there was a meeting recently between the local fishery guys & their counterparts in the states. Apparently the agenda was about aros specifically & the restocking of the wild population. Also present in that meeting were the players in the local aro industry.

Also was told that the fishery guys in the states had a meeting in Singapore as well. He hinted bout legal importation of aros from SG to the states by next year some time but was reluctant to give specifics. Perhaps dreams do come true.