Ok, I gotcha....friend of mine had a huge adult for sale at a Hamburg show I went to back in 2013-14. Really strong healthy adult....1st one I had ever seen and I was absolutely taken by it. So they have recently been added to appendix list?Yep, we're talking about FRTs/PNTs (Fly River turtle/Pig-Nose turtle). Carettochelys insculpta.
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..........Wait.....is there one species just like this with normal feet or did I just not SEE the flippers cuz he never took it out of the RUB?