does anyone have a Pro 3/2260 and an FX5?

[HarleyK]

Howdy,

In cars, there is torque and horsepower. Each of them describes a different property of the engine. I would say that in filters,
flow rate = horsepower and water pressure = torque.
The first is desirable for mechanical filtration, the latter for long cleaning intervals. Too bad that the manufacturers don't learn from truck commercials and advertise both. I guess trying it out the hard way might fry the pumps.


Joefish, it'd be great if you could report back some months down the road about the cleaning intervals for both filters, and the drop in flow rate for each of them. That might give us an idea of the filters' "torque", IMO a desirable and underrated property. And no, I have no clue if Eheim will win

HarleyK

 

[Joefish]

Howdy,

In cars, there is torque and horsepower. Each of them describes a different property of the engine. I would say that in filters,
flow rate = horsepower and water pressure = torque.
The first is desirable for mechanical filtration, the latter for long cleaning intervals. Too bad that the manufacturers don't learn from truck commercials and advertise both. I guess trying it out the hard way might fry the pumps.


Joefish, it'd be great if you could report back some months down the road about the cleaning intervals for both filters, and the drop in flow rate for each of them. That might give us an idea of the filters' "torque", IMO a desirable and underrated property. And no, I have no clue if Eheim will win

HarleyK

For sure will do!

BUT, for thos who have the FX5 should no matter what see a flow rate drop when the filter gets clogged and the reason being is because the pump will slow down to compensate for clogging so you wont burn out the pump, "There so called smart pump" so that will make it hard to compare with a clogging filter, either way i will give my opinion on them down the road.


Joe

 

[HarleyK]

the pump will slow down to compensate for clogging so you wont burn out the pump, "There so called smart pump"

Thanks for the info, I did not know that. Whoa. I don't think Eheim does that. On the other hand, we have reports of Eheims running for years/decades without burning out. Bottom line: We compare a high-tech computerized pump (FX5) vs. an Eheim "VW Beetle" (simple, but it runs and runs and runs). This makes me even more curious about the longevity of the FX5, we all know that computers crash, and the more computer chips the more susceptible to damage and malfunction, especially first-generation products.

This is getting more and more complex. I think there is no short-term answer. Only time will tell.

HarleyK

 

[Loubard]

Beside of the fact that I don't own any of those filters, did you know Eheim will be releasing more filters along the lines of the new Pro III 2080?

 

[Joefish]

Beside of the fact that I don't own any of those filters, did you know Eheim will be releasing more filters along the lines of the new Pro III 2080?

I agree only time will tell.


as for other new product lines such as the 1080 there is also a new line of heated 2080's with touch pad controlls, so the new eheims is also going hi tech so you have to compare this to lets say Sony and Microsoft, the gameing batte is on, and im sure it go's the same for just about any product, there will allways be a better one sooner or later.


http://www.eheim.de/eheim/inhalte/index.jsp?key=liniendetail_28383_ehen

http://www.eheim.de/eheim/inhalte/index.jsp?key=liniendetail_28387_ehen

http://www.eheim.de/eheim/inhalte/index.jsp?key=liniendetail_28394_ehen

http://www.eheim.de/eheim/inhalte/index.jsp?key=liniendetail_28397_ehen

http://www.eheim.de/eheim/inhalte/index.jsp?key=liniendetail_28390_ehen

 

[rumblesushi]

Joe, the eheim filters also did a better job. With the eheim classics, and the 2260 there is no bypassing of media as the intake is on the bottom.

So my point was, I didn't really specify - the eheim filters still filtered out all the crap, I culd see it when I replaced the filter wool etc, but kept the same flow rate.

I juts think they have better quality pumps, very strong pumps with lots of torque as harley put it. And a good overall design.

One day I might try the FX5, but I was very disappointed with the 404 and the 4.

The eheims seem to have strong enough pumps that no matter how much crpa they filter, the water flow is still very strong. The most I do with my eheim filters is drain the filter to empty out the crap, and replace the polywool from time to time.

I'd really appreciate it if you could do the test though, in 2 buckets, to see if the FX5 really does have twice the flow rate.

 

[Ducati996]

You guys sure know how to beat a dead horse to death There have been polls, more threads, fights, difference of opinions and everything in between....just do a search and jump right in those threads that are still active today.

I see some of the same folks posting in all these threads saying they arent convinced yet. I say so dont be convinced and stick with what you got. Its dosent matter either way....

 

[Joefish]

I have kept Eheims in the past but for my size tank they just were not enouph, either way everyone is going to use what they want, some people buy harleys some buy japanese

I cannot wait to get the new 2080, and it will be running on the same tank my FX5 is


I do agree about the past 404's i wasnt happy with them at all but the new FX5 seems to have its s*it together. so well see. either way as long as there cleaning my tanks i cant complain

 

[Joefish]

You guys sure know how to beat a dead horse to death There have been polls, more threads, fights, difference of opinions and everything in between....just do a search and jump right in those threads that are still active today.

I see some of the same folks posting in all these threads saying they arent convinced yet. I say so dont be convinced and stick with what you got. Its dosent matter either way....

They dont call it a dicussion board for nothing

 

[rumblesushi]

You guys sure know how to beat a dead horse to death There have been polls, more threads, fights, difference of opinions and everything in between....just do a search and jump right in those threads that are still active today.

I see some of the same folks posting in all these threads saying they arent convinced yet. I say so dont be convinced and stick with what you got. Its dosent matter either way....

I wanna give the filter a chance, what's wrong with that? I want to see if it really does have the flowrate that the specs suggest.