Does quarantine stress the fish more than it's worth?

[Bderick67]

Just adding on for everyone, I'm taking everyones points in, that's how we develop our fishkeeping strategy, I'm not dismissing anyones points as bs and I'm not criticizing anyone. So if you can't open your mind to different suggestions from th normal, there is no point trying to learn anything. You can't learn something if it's not out of the norm for you.

So, stop criticizing my point just because it's not what the majority of people do. I'm sorry if I'm not a moneky see, monkey do person. If you wan't to go against my point, by all means do it, as long as you do it intelligently. That means don't try to negat my point with statements like that's BS, if you are trying to convince me to try your side of thinking, it's best not to insult, or try criticize my thinknig with lame sarcastic questions like, "have you ever seen a dog get treated for fleas?" etc. We all have brains here, lets use them to come to a conclusion on the question that this thread is trying to adress.

Though you didn't want to debate this

Quarantining is a precaution. A precaution that can protect against infecting your expensive fish stock and general health of the tank. Comparing a fish tank to human situation or wild habitat is there is no comparison.

Why anyone would knowingly infect there aquarium is beyond me. IMO people don't quarantine fish that they get from a LFS either because they are lazy, impatient, naive or just don't care.

 

[12 Volt Man]

Originally Posted by dingoofus
Just adding on for everyone, I'm taking everyones points in, that's how we develop our fishkeeping strategy, I'm not dismissing anyones points as bs and I'm not criticizing anyone. So if you can't open your mind to different suggestions from th normal, there is no point trying to learn anything. You can't learn something if it's not out of the norm for you.

So, stop criticizing my point just because it's not what the majority of people do. I'm sorry if I'm not a moneky see, monkey do person. If you wan't to go against my point, by all means do it, as long as you do it intelligently. That means don't try to negat my point with statements like that's BS, if you are trying to convince me to try your side of thinking, it's best not to insult, or try criticize my thinknig with lame sarcastic questions like, "have you ever seen a dog get treated for fleas?" etc. We all have brains here, lets use them to come to a conclusion on the question that this thread is trying to adress.

what exactly is your point? that quarentining isn't worth the trouble? or that it is more stressful on the fish than its worth (ie its worth risking all your other fish?)

not sure I get what your position actually is.

all I can say is this:

everyone who doesn't quarentine probably hasn't had a major problem when introducing new fish into a full tank of stock/corals/plants.

but anyone that has, will quartentine from that point on if they can.

its pretty much that simple..

if you have been burned, chances are you will quarentine.

 

[Cholly]

Have you ever seen a person immunized for lice? Mate, I don't know how old you are, but if you are in your 20's and still getting lice, there is something wrong with you.

I'm nearly 50, but I still have a kid in public school. Is something wrong with me?
Kindly back off on personal attacks.

I quarantine any time I get a fish from anything but a personally known breeder. When my fish were of the inexpensive variety, I didn't. Now however, they start at $40, and I am much less willing to risk them.

 

[dingoofus]

Okay, I apozlogize for any personal attacks I have made. I would just appreciate it if people didn't dismiss my views as "BS" just because they aren't the norm.

 

[Cholly]

That was pretty personal. I disagree with your methods, but that was a cheap shot.

 

[Cholly]

I am kind of surprised that you don't quarantine though. Aren't fish expensive as hell-o down under?

 

[dingoofus]

what exactly is your point? that quarentining isn't worth the trouble? or that it is more stressful on the fish than its worth (ie its worth risking all your other fish?)

I'm not sure if anyone gets my point, lol.

My point is, I don't quarentine because I believe that fish should not be wrapped up in cotton wool,(obviously I wouldn't put a fish with mutated wounds and puss and what have you into my tank). By that I mean they should not be totally cut off from the outside world. If I catch feeders, I don't quarentine. Because I believe that to prevent a sickness, the fish has to be exposd to small doses of it so the fishes body can build up immunities. I don't think quarentine is stupid, I just don't do it because it's unnecessary for me and due to a personal view I have towards sickness and immunities.

 

[dingoofus]

I am kind of surprised that you don't quarantine though. Aren't fish expensive as hell-o down under?

Not for me mate, I keep natives.

 

[paopanlilio]

Hi all,

Question on my mind. When you get new fish, it's a good practice to quarantine them for several weeks, right? Correct



Thinking it over, what's actually the best practice for quarantine?

Because I'm thinking, there could be a couple of options:

-- Into the 5 gallon bucket they go! Woo hoo! (With a sponge filter and a heater, water changes several times a week.) This is an option

I would guess that this is a really popular way to do it. And there's the question: if we're trying to stop Ich and other infections that come up when fish are stressed, isn't the smaller amount of water going to lead to a rapid toxin build up . . . which leads to stress . . . abated by a water change . . . then another rapid toxin build up . . . repeated until the fish go into the tank?

Wouldn't this make the new fish more likely to get sick, than just putting them in the main, big tank with already cycled water?

-- I guess the ideal would be to put them into a dedicated quarantine tank, 30+ gallons in size, with an established filter. But unless you're getting new fish pretty frequently, how practical would it be? The answer to the question is its very practical because you can also use the tank as hospital tank incase any of the fish get hurt

I guess I'd like to know some more informed and expert opinions on how to do quarantine the best way.[/quote] i belive this is the topic

 

[Cholly]

Ah. Well I keep tropicals where we get multiple feet of snow in the winter, mine cost money. Might make a difference.