brianp;2822593; said:
I'm sorry. I'm a horrible person, you are right. Sarcasm can go two ways.
If cycling were as easy as opening a bottle, people would flock to it...but trust me...there is a reason why it takes months.
dont know how to cycle
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I'm sorry. I'm a horrible person, you are right. Sarcasm can go two ways.
If cycling were as easy as opening a bottle, people would flock to it...but trust me...there is a reason why it takes months.
sutherland;2822603; said:
From one aquariast to another, you can trust me on this. With this product, in my hands, cycling was, in fact, as easy as opening a bottle. These are bacterial "spores"....makes a big difference. Give it a shot.
A page and a half of post and aI can't believe that no one has told fishkeeper about the right way to do this, shame on you all...
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207575&highlight=fishless
Dr Joe
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http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207575&highlight=fishless
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Dr Joe;2823097; said:
Really I would not understand why anyone would do a fishless cycle when they already have established filters on another tank. Myself, I haven't cycled a tank in close to 5 years, yet have expanded from that single tank to 14 and have had as many running as 21.
But I guess, shame on me
I'd definitely use the old filter material with the bacteria intact. Don't kill the bacteria rinsing in hot water just put it in. Also you cycled your other tanks whether you realize it or not. It's a natural process. You may not have helped it but it happened. When you start from scratch use a test kit with nh3,no2,and no3 in particular and you can watch the cycling process from day to day.
Ullopincrate;2825318; said:
Depends on your definition of "cycled". Myself I prefer to believe that I cycle the filters on the tank and then the filter adjusts to the bioload that is present. If I decide to set up a new tank, I just move an established filter to the tank, it then adjusts to the bioload no cycling involved since there is an already present functioning colony of bacteria. Now this colony may have to grow or even some may have to die off, but that is not cycling.
Hey brianp did you ever do a thread on the Stability? I was researching last night looks like interesting stuff. May be good idea to just keep some on hand, cause ya never know.
Bderick67;2825473; said:
No thread...I just try to be helpful to others and pass the info along whenever it is relevant. I wouldn't have bothered with it until Seachem informed me that these were bacterial "spores", upon which the entire picture shifted. In my hands, it performed flawlessly. I can not imagine a more effortless cycling method. One caveat, however, whenever I cycle a new tank (by whatever method), I always add some cane sugar initially as a carbon source.
BTW, I agree there that there is considerable "plasticity" within the bacterial population colonizing the biomedia. I would think that not only does the bacterial count fluctuate, but the "demographics" as well, in response to the bioload confronting it.
brianp;2825726; said:
Cool, thanks for the info. I've got a xp3 that I need to get established, normally I would just mix the bio max/ehfisubstrat with some that has already been cycled. I think maybe I'll throw it on a 55g and give the stability a try just for the heck of it.
Bderick67;2826282; said:
A couple of things, paison. When you get the bottle of Stability, the spores will have formed a transluscent sludge on the bottom of the bottle. Find a clean container and pour off half the liquid...save this. Vigorously shake the Stability bottle for ten seconds or so to completely resuspend the spores. Replace the liquid and invert the bottle several times to disperse the spores. You are now ready to inoculate your tank. If you decide to use the cane sugar, I would suggest a ratio of 1 heaping teaspoon per 100 gallons. Don't get carried away or your water will turn cloudy. Finally, I left the fish in the tank overnight to build up some ammonia before adding the Stability in order to give the bacteria something to sink their teeth into. This worked well for me.
