dovi success?
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Greenterra i have kept many large cichlids inlcuding a massive Jaguar, a fully grown Midas and many others.
I am ownly saying about the isolation of many species due to bad rep.
Like the Red Tail Catfish, i foolishly purchased one for my 6x2x2 many years ago. The shop i got it from that my friends family own (hes the manager) they grew one too, but in its own tank.
when mine was returned to the tank it was put in the large display tank that now houses the two 12" plus dovii.
Basically my red tail never touched any of the fish in the display tank and the one they grew in an isolation tank was a fish killing bastard!
to me it seems like to much of a coincidence ive seen it to many times.
I am ownly saying about the isolation of many species due to bad rep.
Like the Red Tail Catfish, i foolishly purchased one for my 6x2x2 many years ago. The shop i got it from that my friends family own (hes the manager) they grew one too, but in its own tank.
when mine was returned to the tank it was put in the large display tank that now houses the two 12" plus dovii.
Basically my red tail never touched any of the fish in the display tank and the one they grew in an isolation tank was a fish killing bastard!
to me it seems like to much of a coincidence ive seen it to many times.
billbobthegreat;3872210; said:
I will second the notion that isolation creates "fish killing bastards!"
Im not saying Doviis arent mean, but if we are to try and keep them in captivity with other large brute cichlids then we should manipulate all we can to create a less aggresive specimen.
If it was true that they ruthlessly kill all fish they come across then there would be a hell of alot of dead floating Fish in central America lol
If it was true that they ruthlessly kill all fish they come across then there would be a hell of alot of dead floating Fish in central America lol
billbobthegreat;3872418; said:
Exactly!
Crowd most any animal and you'll get pathological behavior. Heck, they have to click the beaks of baby chickens to keep them from killing each other!
The problem is many people think a dovii won't feel crowded in a 180.......add another zero and they'd be right!
billbobthegreat;3872580; said:
Hes not the only one that agrees with you. 95% of people do, its just not physically or fiscally possible for most people to keep anything bigger than a 220 or so gallon tank. Thats why it seems frowned upon for people to try and keep dovii in a community tank. Ive tried raising them in a 265 community at least 4 different times and every time they get over 8-10 inches, they have to be removed. They get a bad rap because they are bad...its not some myth or old wives tale.
Try all you want to do everything you are "talking" about doing. Odds are, it wont work for you for the next 15 yrs which is roughly the life span of the fish. Anyone can keep them in a tank as 1-8 or so inches, but its not a success unless its done for an extended period of time (the majority of their life, IMO.)
You think people want to keep Doviis or Umbees in a 600+ gallon by themselves? Im sure theyd love to have every fish they want in their tank, the doviis (95+% of the time) or umbees just dont allow it.
And the statement of "there would be a hell of alot of dead floating Fish in central America" is...well...ridiculous. It doesnt happen that way because there are hundreds of millions of gallons of water in their natural habitats. There are predators after them, babies to protect, fisherman, boats, locals gill netting, caves, downed trees, crevices and more for their prey to hide and get away into. To compare their aggression from the wild to a tank is silly. They are smart fish and figure out they are in a glass box and get bound and determined to take out their competition.
Sure, youll see the occasional dovii, umbee or beani in a community. Every species has its laid back ones, learning disabled ones, stupid ones, lazy ones etc. But if you go by the experiences the majority of knowledgeable fishkeepers on here have had, theyll be alone in anything less than 600 gallons as a bare minimum. If you think differently, please show us a 12+" dovii or pair living in a NON ridiculously overstocked tank with something more than dithers or a pleco or 2. Ive only seen it done in tanks that had WAY too many fish for them to live the way they should and have room to swim and be comfortable, so I dont count that as a success. Im not saying I have seen everything and am the know all of it and Im not saying it cant happen, Im merely saying the odds are against it, severely.
In all my research of Dovii.....I have only seen one 20+" Dovii kept in a community tank. That is the 52K tank on here. Not saying it cant be done but I have not seen video or pics of long term 20+" Dovii with other fish in anything but that 52K tank.
cchhcc;3872856; said:
Chris...is yours in your 10' tank? Thats about 1200 gallons right? 10x4x4?
Id like to see it too. The only pic Ive seen of it was the video still in front of that orange pipe or whatever it was.
