Dwarf pike wallecei

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That female is definitely not a Cr. wallacii. (Wetspot always mispells the name for some reason).

Looks like you scored the sp. 'orinico dwarf' instead. The Cr. wallacii I've had from Colombia (twice) had orange rimmed dorsal spots, not red. Plus they don't have the stripes in the dorsal either. Right now, 3 different dwarves are coming out of Colombia that are all labeled Cr. wallacii - The colombian Cr. wallacii, sp. the 'orinico dwarf', and the relatively speaking new sp. 'Inirida dwarf'.

My Inirida female doesn't show any dorsal spots at all, nor do the females I've seen in the one or two other pics online I've seen. I sent the picture of my female to Vinny Kutty and Wayne Leibel, neither had seen this particular dwarf before. The fact yours has the spot plus the bars in the dorsal is why I'd lean more sp. 'Orinico dwarf' than either Cr. Wallacii or sp. 'Inirida dwarf.'

I have only seen breeding reports for Cr. regani, Cr. compressiceps, and Cr. notophthalmus before thus far. I'd treat yours like Cr. notophthalmus though.

PS: Sorry for the rambling and repeating myself, coffee hasn't kicked in yet.
 
I have a trio of the sp. orinoco myself. I would say yours are both female. My male is the same size as my two females and not a hint of a spot. The females have very definate spots--plural--in their dorsal. One female just became very protective of her log and is keeping the second female pinned in the corner of the tank. Male seems indifferent. He male not be mature yet, but the female has a glow in the dark pink belly and looks like she will burst if she doesn't spawn soon. Fingers crossed.

Darth--did you decide sp. inirida for your avatar pike?
 
Until I see otherwise, yes. She matches up with some pics from Italy that were imported under that name.

Jeff from Aquatic Clarity has been getting in what is listed as .cf regani Inridiae ... if I had the tank space, I'd order some just to confirm. Sadly, I'm still stuck on the one tank atm ... or at least until tommorrow when I win the MegaMillons. ;)
 
darth pike said:
Jeff from Aquatic Clarity has been getting in what is listed as .cf regani Inridiae ... if I had the tank space, I'd order some just to confirm. Sadly, I'm still stuck on the one tank atm ... or at least until tommorrow when I win the MegaMillons. ;)
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I actually emailed Jeff out of curiosity and this was his reply. It sounds like his females are the same as the ones in the first post of this thread -- with red-ringed eyespots in the dorsal.

Jeff @ Aquatic Clarity said:
Hi Ryan,

I'll get pictures to you later...I took a few bad ones this morning that I need to upload yet!

I believe the cf. regani are really either nothaphalmus or less likely wallacii (there is an off chance they are something else yet of course). The ocelli in the dorsal of the females have a red ring around them, not the white you would expect for regani. The really bright ringed females all sold at the open house I had last weekend but there are still 2 or 3 younger females in the batch that I can pair out.
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That's funny, I just got done posting on his area of the DCC about pics of them.
 
He just emailed back and said he was working on pictures. He said the picture in the original post of this thread is very similar, his are just smaller and haven't filled out yet. He also mentioned the picture of Crenicichla Orinoco in the Pike Aqualog is "not far off" from what he's got. I don't have the Pike Aqualog, though. Is that a book/poster?
 
I know, back in the 80's, there was an unknown dwarf floating around in the hobby where the males did have dorsal spots as well. I've never seen a picture of them, so I couldn't tell you what they look like but have seen them mentioned in the dwarf pike article by Wayne Leibel in AFM as well as by a member on the dwarf forum.

But that belly is unlike any male dwarf of any of the species I've kept. Did the pic come right after feeding?
 
Yes- I would say that explains both of their full bellys. I think time will inevitably tell. I did get one other in the purchase that was definitely a male- sold him though- and I'm going to order 6 more to see what those look like. I'm pretty sure it's a mix of sever different dwarfs.
 
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