EBJD, BGJD, XJD, JD pic thread
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CarlosN;3618613; said:
Nice EB. Nice finnage too! What size tankis he/she in? Tankmates?
GL with him/her.
2"
5.5"
6.5"
Red Bellies
Ghost Knife
Apistogramma cacuatoides "Orange Flash"
Chalceus macrolepidotus
The lighting and camera has changed throughout these pics...fyi
I have tried to raise three EBJD's in my new world community tank. I usually wait for a shipment to come in to Forest Lake Pets (amazing retailer in MN that has the highest quality fish!!!) and scan each individual and pick out the one that looks strongest and most dominant out of the group. The first one i had died of hexamita that i could'nt get under control, The second was a poor quality strain that was very weak and eventually got killed by a rival male dwarf blue german ram?!?!?!?
Now for the Third about a year later, I chose him using same method but the choice was not hard. I was the first one to buy out of a shipment, and he stood out among the others from day one. My 135 gallon stacked recirculating system had been constantly evolving over time, and at this point we had a school of red bellies living in the 55 gallon sump with about a dozen crawfish and a large pleco. The upper 75 Gallon first housed an "interesting" assortment of fish that most would not condone. This included a juvenile teacup stingray, a mutated bicolor carp, a juvenile clown knife, a orange spotted sunfish, a hujeta gar, a severum, a regular JD, a leucistic oscar, and the fish above! They all thrived among generous live plantings and hiding places. I admit i got overzealous in stocking as this tank was the pool/party room showpiece of a college house. The juvenile fish grew up together beautifully and each was well fed (live blackworms,krill,spirolina pellets, feeder shiners, crickets,etc). I have sinced moved into a studio apartment and have been gradually moving fish out of the system by selling and giving away to friends. The EBJD is now the king of the tank, and i have added various peaceful community fish along with flying fox and flagfish for algae/detritus control. The Piranhas in the sump are now 6-8" adults and the severum lives with them without a scratch!! The tank is extremely well filtered and UV sterilized. Lighhting has evolved with my budget but is now SHO flourescent in daylight spectrum. A C02 system is being added as i remove stock from the tank. The system is stable at 0 ppm of ammonia,nitrite,nitrate with weekly vacuumings and about a 5-10% water change.
I have done some reading about this mutation and am starting to realize how amazing this fish really is. It has to be a quality strain that has been bred back to wild BG dempsey blood many times. This fish even has a faint yellow dorsal spot that i believe would be amazingly intense during breeding. It is by no means weak! it has survived through aggressive interspecific competition and is 100% perfect! not a scratch on him. Of course i have fed him well and the UV sterilizer is key, but i would venture that this fish would be able to survive in the wild! It has been shown that rearing environment complexity can increase cerebellar volume in fishes (Nevitt et al. 2006?) and i would say that this fish has become stronger and smarter because of its rearing environment. I have noticed that this fish will never become aggressive if unprovoked, although it will display to fish that challenge him and usually they back off. All the other fish ive had in the tank will become very aggressive to smaller tankmates once they become the largest in the group. This fish is the only one who leaves everybody else alone. This fish is able to change its coloration just as a wild dempsey can. It is very rare that he attains his darkest colorings, and i dont think i have a picture that shows him in his true splendor yet. But even then as you can see it is very vivid. This guy knows me personally. It will always be waiting and anticipating some food when i walk in, but will hide when strangers approach! As weird as this may sound, this guy has compelled me to believe that fish think on a much higher level than we commonly believe. When it was about 4 inches long I had to remove some kind of parasitic worm that had hitchiked from a bullhead fed to the piranhas (made it through the UV?!?!?) and was attached to his jaw. I didn't want to stress the fish so i washed my bare hands carefully with tap water, then went about cornering him in the tank. Surprisingly, once i had chased him around enough, as if he realized resistence was futile, he let me lightly grasp him in the water and bring him to the surface. Without a single struggle, i was able to open his mouth and remove the anchorworm. I then let him go and he lazily swam away without much of a care. From then on, it will eat right out of my hand at the surface! I know it is just speculation but he seems to trust me now.
I am interested in this morph and would like to know if anybody has any strong "proven" Blue gene dempsey females that i could have as a mate for him, under contract that i would split the first viable batch of EBJD and BGJD juveniles 50/50.
I will also consider selling for the right price (not gonna be cheap)
I hope my experience with this fish will add to the knowledge of the strain being raised. I have only found photos of a few other adult male fish that i think rival this one.
5.5"
6.5"
Red Bellies
Ghost Knife
Apistogramma cacuatoides "Orange Flash"
Chalceus macrolepidotus
The lighting and camera has changed throughout these pics...fyi
I have tried to raise three EBJD's in my new world community tank. I usually wait for a shipment to come in to Forest Lake Pets (amazing retailer in MN that has the highest quality fish!!!) and scan each individual and pick out the one that looks strongest and most dominant out of the group. The first one i had died of hexamita that i could'nt get under control, The second was a poor quality strain that was very weak and eventually got killed by a rival male dwarf blue german ram?!?!?!?
Now for the Third about a year later, I chose him using same method but the choice was not hard. I was the first one to buy out of a shipment, and he stood out among the others from day one. My 135 gallon stacked recirculating system had been constantly evolving over time, and at this point we had a school of red bellies living in the 55 gallon sump with about a dozen crawfish and a large pleco. The upper 75 Gallon first housed an "interesting" assortment of fish that most would not condone. This included a juvenile teacup stingray, a mutated bicolor carp, a juvenile clown knife, a orange spotted sunfish, a hujeta gar, a severum, a regular JD, a leucistic oscar, and the fish above! They all thrived among generous live plantings and hiding places. I admit i got overzealous in stocking as this tank was the pool/party room showpiece of a college house. The juvenile fish grew up together beautifully and each was well fed (live blackworms,krill,spirolina pellets, feeder shiners, crickets,etc). I have sinced moved into a studio apartment and have been gradually moving fish out of the system by selling and giving away to friends. The EBJD is now the king of the tank, and i have added various peaceful community fish along with flying fox and flagfish for algae/detritus control. The Piranhas in the sump are now 6-8" adults and the severum lives with them without a scratch!! The tank is extremely well filtered and UV sterilized. Lighhting has evolved with my budget but is now SHO flourescent in daylight spectrum. A C02 system is being added as i remove stock from the tank. The system is stable at 0 ppm of ammonia,nitrite,nitrate with weekly vacuumings and about a 5-10% water change.
I have done some reading about this mutation and am starting to realize how amazing this fish really is. It has to be a quality strain that has been bred back to wild BG dempsey blood many times. This fish even has a faint yellow dorsal spot that i believe would be amazingly intense during breeding. It is by no means weak! it has survived through aggressive interspecific competition and is 100% perfect! not a scratch on him. Of course i have fed him well and the UV sterilizer is key, but i would venture that this fish would be able to survive in the wild! It has been shown that rearing environment complexity can increase cerebellar volume in fishes (Nevitt et al. 2006?) and i would say that this fish has become stronger and smarter because of its rearing environment. I have noticed that this fish will never become aggressive if unprovoked, although it will display to fish that challenge him and usually they back off. All the other fish ive had in the tank will become very aggressive to smaller tankmates once they become the largest in the group. This fish is the only one who leaves everybody else alone. This fish is able to change its coloration just as a wild dempsey can. It is very rare that he attains his darkest colorings, and i dont think i have a picture that shows him in his true splendor yet. But even then as you can see it is very vivid. This guy knows me personally. It will always be waiting and anticipating some food when i walk in, but will hide when strangers approach! As weird as this may sound, this guy has compelled me to believe that fish think on a much higher level than we commonly believe. When it was about 4 inches long I had to remove some kind of parasitic worm that had hitchiked from a bullhead fed to the piranhas (made it through the UV?!?!?) and was attached to his jaw. I didn't want to stress the fish so i washed my bare hands carefully with tap water, then went about cornering him in the tank. Surprisingly, once i had chased him around enough, as if he realized resistence was futile, he let me lightly grasp him in the water and bring him to the surface. Without a single struggle, i was able to open his mouth and remove the anchorworm. I then let him go and he lazily swam away without much of a care. From then on, it will eat right out of my hand at the surface! I know it is just speculation but he seems to trust me now.
I am interested in this morph and would like to know if anybody has any strong "proven" Blue gene dempsey females that i could have as a mate for him, under contract that i would split the first viable batch of EBJD and BGJD juveniles 50/50.
I will also consider selling for the right price (not gonna be cheap)
I hope my experience with this fish will add to the knowledge of the strain being raised. I have only found photos of a few other adult male fish that i think rival this one.
nice EBJD 
Sucessfully moved mine into larger tank. He is sharing with a blue acara about 1/2 his size. At first he was just a pansy, wouldnt even eat properly. After 3 weeks he has now established his dominance in the tank and is happier then ever.Will post updated pics soon.
Here is mine mr sparkel he is 3". His color has changed so much.
Now
at 2"
at 1" when I got him.
Now
at 2"
at 1" when I got him.
Nice links for dempseys guys check out my small guy popeye
http://s918.photobucket.com/albums/ad23/oriqua/popeye/?action=view¤t=morepics008.jpg
http://s918.photobucket.com/albums/ad23/oriqua/popeye/?action=view¤t=morepics008.jpg
