Ebola round 2

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more facts: that nurse did have a slight fever on plane back to texas. but she called the cdc and THEY told her it was ok to take that flight.
 
ecoli73 said:
Respect.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-life-death-on-frontline-liberia-sierra-leone


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Hello; I read the article. It helps to see the human faces and hear the stories of those in Africa helping the stricken. I knew the situation was difficult but could not imagine the details. These healthcare workers are a noble group of human beings.

The article mentioned a desire to travel after a stint by one of the nurses. I understand this desire but have some concerns. First even if all the protocols used while treating patients are successful, the virus in the general population to some degree and might be picked up away from the treatment centers. There is still the contention that they understand fairly precisely when a person is and is not shedding virus, such as the precise 100.4 temperature threshold, but in my experience things are not always so precise.

The main point in my questioning this travel goes back to the risk vs. the reward. Say a nurse or doctor makes the sacrifice and effort to help the sick in Africa and then later thru some yet unknown mechanism do spread the disease to a place where it had not existed. Facing an enforced quarantine period may be a further required part of the sacrifice. Once cleared I do hope these people get the support they need. My guess is they will have trauma effects much like front line troops in combat.
 
petspoiler said:
more facts: that nurse did have a slight fever on plane back to texas. but she called the cdc and THEY told her it was ok to take that flight.
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Hello. Yes, the return turn trip to Dallas is on the CDC. The initial trip to Cleveland is on the nurse.
 
This ebola stuff is scary. Knowing the plane Visions was on had stops after she got off is also scary.

Does hand sanitizer even kill the virus?

Also, what do the nurses do with the infected patients vomit/fluids? If its flushed down the toilet, will the virus be in our sewers etc..?
 
A little Ebola comedy to lighten the mood. I give him an A for effort and a B for content.

[video=youtube;hUB44ltVJCA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUB44ltVJCA#t=12[/video]
 
Hand sanitizer containing at least 65% alcohol will kill it. Dilute bleach will kill it. Quaternary ammonia compounds and phenolic compounds like Lysol will kill it. Vinegar will kill it. Standard sewage treatment will kill it -- the hazard is in the close proximity to where waste from the infected is inserted into the waste stream (ie, toilets).

I am happy that the improved PPE (middle figure) is now being recommended. What is depicted in the second image is more like what I would expect, and frankly, the minimum I would accept, if I were doing this work. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...a-protection-worn-by-us-hospital-workers.html

I also think we need to take a long hard look at facilities that are supposed to be rendering humanitarian aid being run like businesses. Correct healthcare is antithesis to profit -- we have otherwise competent people taking risks because of being ill-equipped or ill-trained. Any hospital incapable of treating ebola cases is ALSO incapable of taking care of other cases that require true isolation -- such as in the case of extremely drug-resistant tuberculosis, so where in the hell is all the money from the insurance companies and patients actually going?
 
Assuming the cleanup crew cleans the entire restroom and toilet where the initial patients sat. Between the toilet and the sewer filter/chemicals the virus is still active right? Rodents are down there and could cause another form of outbreak if so.
 
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