Efficient monster filtration Design Discussion
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The heaters create heat from adding resistance in flow of the electricity that flows through the circuit. There is some, very little power that may pass through without turning into heat. This could be VERY little though since heat its self can create resistance.
Its just like a light bulb. A thin wire heats up because lots of power is turned into heat which produces light but some of the power will flow without turning into heat. If you have 100% resistance, no power would flow at all.
Its just like a light bulb. A thin wire heats up because lots of power is turned into heat which produces light but some of the power will flow without turning into heat. If you have 100% resistance, no power would flow at all.
Jgray152;2159532; said:
the heat produced by a heater is I*I*R..........
this is the same I ( current in amps) that you meter records as watts or kilo watt hours as in watts = I*V
i am not sure what you are trying to say ???
the advantage of 220V is the use of smaller gauge wire but it doesnt change the electric bill
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justin guest;2145243; said:As for the efficiency of the pump there are more efficient pumps but you could go with the Hagen max flo 2900gph with a max. head of 14 feet, 9 inch and 130 watts power consumption. This pump isn´t the most efficient you can use but at least beats the Docs´ pump for efficiency (he forgot to check the catalogues from this decade).
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Wasn't my pump choice, it was cvermeulen's.
I gave the website link in my post...
" http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewItem%7Eaction%7Eview%7EidProduct%7ERB3121%7EidCategory%7EFIWPSBTO%7Ecategory%7EOver_1000_GPH-Submersible-Water_Pumps-Saltwater_Aquarium_Supplies%7Evendor%7E.html
Who uses catalogs anymore?!
This is a prime example of how efficiency costs (online not a catalog)..QuietOne $110.00 - Hagen 2900 $200.-$300 (shop wisely or these hagen).
Good pump for the flow/efficiency!
But if you can't use 2900gph, their Max-Flo 1500 @ 100w is $130. More (apples to apples).
This thread is entertaining if nothing else
.I tried to get someone to use this theory last time we did this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:WaterScrewPerpetualMotion.png with the addition of a small pump to amplify the flow rate...Any takers?
Keep up the thought process', we could hit on something yet.
Now if we could just make the water a little more slippery (there's a hint).
this is my diy ghetto buckey filter that works great.
i have the bucket placed right in the middle of my 300 gall stock tank. water falls in and over the media then is pumped right out the bottom.
it works great for me and its easy to maintain.
if anyone is interested i can post pics of the real thing.
i have the bucket placed right in the middle of my 300 gall stock tank. water falls in and over the media then is pumped right out the bottom.
it works great for me and its easy to maintain.
if anyone is interested i can post pics of the real thing.
Just curious why you want to flog me a dinosaur with almost the same wattage but not even half the flow rate and head. The more expensive buying price will pay for itself very quickly. As for the apples I like mine big and juicyDr Joe;2161409; said:Wasn't my pump choice, it was cvermeulen's.
I gave the website link in my post...
" http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewItem%7Eaction%7Eview%7EidProduct%7ERB3121%7EidCategory%7EFIWPSBTO%7Ecategory%7EOver_1000_GPH-Submersible-Water_Pumps-Saltwater_Aquarium_Supplies%7Evendor%7E.html
Who uses catalogs anymore?!
This is a prime example of how efficiency costs (online not a catalog)..QuietOne $110.00 - Hagen 2900 $200.-$300 (shop wisely or these hagen).
Good pump for the flow/efficiency!
But if you can't use 2900gph, their Max-Flo 1500 @ 100w is $130. More (apples to apples).(why you running monster tanks with guppy pumps anyway?
Maybe you should check out a modern catalog sometime.
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You not working on the antigrav water thing again are you? Water flowing uphill
- That only works in space j<><
justin guest;2162833; said:Maybe you should check out a modern catalog sometime.
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I dunno if this is directed at me or not... and I dunno if you're being cheeky or what, but I chose a pump that's a fairly common choice. My point wasn't to flog a crappy pump here, it was to open a discussion about the "best" way to do things.
Let's take your 130 watt, 3900gph pump. That's around the same ballpark for flow as a magnum 8, at 3250 gph. The magnum 8 still moves almost six times as much volume per watt at zero head. So yeah, you've used a catalog and found a better pump than the Q1 (not exactly hard, let's be honest). But it still can't touch a powerhead for moving water around a low pressure system.
I'm not sure what Dr. Joe is getting at with his slipperier water thought process, since we're talking about density*gravity*height. Maybe if you could make the water LIGHTER you'd have something to work with.
I´m in agreement on this one. That´s why I wrote my original post in this thread where for the minimal head loss of a couple of inches you could implement a low head pump like a large powerhead to run a large filter slightly above water level.
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