EHEIM 2260 or FX5???

[T1KARMANN]

personal insults are a sign you are losing

your quote states slower flow

so does that mean if you run the FX5 at half its normal flow rate its better than pumping at 600 gph

you also state with mods the FX5 can hold 9-13 lites of media which you find great

the 2080 hold 13 liters of media as standard

how many great models of filter of filter have fluval made in the past mmmmm not many and i didnt even list the pro 2 in my list

 

[bitteraspects]

FX5 hands down

 

[Jgray152]

personal insults are a sign you are losing

your quote states slower flow

so does that mean if you run the FX5 at half its normal flow rate its better than pumping at 600 gph

you also state with mods the FX5 can hold 9-13 lites of media which you find great

the 2080 hold 13 liters of media as standard

how many great models of filter of filter have fluval made in the past mmmmm not many and i didnt even list the pro 2 in my list

Loosing? haha at what? There is no winning in this debate on either side so where is anyone going to win or lose? There is no end to this debate.

In the case of the Fx5, through its bio media, yes, slowing the flow will have better results.

the 2080 hold 13 liters of media as standard

13 liters with over 600 GPH flow rate compaired to the 12L in the 2080. MUCH better. There is a point when low flow and to much media just doesn't work very efficient because the bacteria above will consume all the ammonia before it reaches the lower half. A Higher flow rate (don't confuse higher flow rate with velocity like you usually do) with low velocity and lots of media will work more efficient.

Sorry again, Fx5 modded will dominate the 2080. Im loving this

 

[T1KARMANN]

Loosing? haha at what? There is no winning in this debate on either side so where is anyone going to win or lose? There is no end to this debate.

In the case of the Fx5, through its bio media, yes, slowing the flow will have better results.



13 liters with over 600 GPH flow rate compaired to the 12L in the 2080. MUCH better. There is a point when low flow and to much media just doesn't work very efficient because the bacteria above will consume all the ammonia before it reaches the lower half. A Higher flow rate (don't confuse higher flow rate with velocity like you usually do) with low velocity and lots of media will work more efficient.

Sorry again, Fx5 modded will dominate the 2080. Im loving this

you so much how do you find time to type

the 2080 has 12 l of media your right and 1 l of sponge the fx5 has how much media and how much sponge

you then state the fx5 if the flow is slowed down will do a better job with all the mods you are adding you are just trying to make it like the 2080 with slower flow rate and more media

its all about contact time their is no point in pumping 600 gph over 13l of media

personal insults tut tut

next you will be telling me something about my mum dont throw stones little boy

ooooops all most forgot to add the thing you like sooooooo much

 

[solchitlins]

Riddle me this Batman.

How about,
What would you choose?

A: FX5 stock, filled with low cost ceramic media "pond matrix" for bio.

B: Eheim 2260 stock, filled with plastic pot scrubbies for bio.

Both would be about equal in price if you shopped around.
But the 2260 would still not have quick dissconects.

 

[Jgray152]

its all about contact time their is no point in pumping 600 gph over 13l of media

Right, there is no point in having a higher turn over rate in large tanks with more media. right. I like your way of thinking

You make me laugh so hard when you post up dumb crap like you have been.

A 300 gallon tank is better filtered with a Eheim 2080 at 318 GPH with 12L of media than a Fx5 at 600 GPH with 13L of media? LOL

The Fx5 has over 20 seconds of contact time at 600 GPH at 13L of bio media at a velocity of .40 inches per second. You don't think thats enough contact time? Thats VERY good. MUCH higher than most filters on the market.

Just to let you know, contact time is not only what you wan't. Velocity is required to strip away old bio film. The slower velocity will allow dead bio film to accumulate.

Would you have an Eheim on a 300 gallon tank with a heavy bio load only cycling the tank less than 1 time per hour? I would rather have a Fx5 filtering at 2 cycles per hour. I would probubly have more than one Fx5 so I would have 1200 GPH for $500 instead of 2 Eheim 2080s for $900 and only at 600 GPH with 2 liters less than the Fx5.

 

[T1KARMANN]

THE FX5 DOESN'T HOLD 13 LITERS OF MEDIA OUT OF THE BOX

you have a 55g tank and you wonder why the 600g turn over of the fx5 works well for you your fav smiley again

if you were running the fx5 on a 300g tank with larger fish than you have i wonder how we you think it would do or would you be running a 2nd filter

if i was running a 2080 on a 55g i would be more than happy and would probably set up a web site

 

[Jgray152]

My Fluval 304 filtered my 55 gallon tank fine mechanically but biologically it wasn't cutting it. I could have gone with a 405 and it probubly would have been fine.

Im not running 600 GPH on my 55, im running about 400 GPH since I turned it down cause I don't need all the extra flow. I originally bought the filter for a 180 Gal which I bought and sold.

I am not judging the fx5 on how well it performs on my 55 gallon. I judge the filter on its performance in general and its quality and features.

Others say the Fx5 works great and some have it running on tanks over 150 gallons. Infact I think I saw a guy have one one a 220 or 240 gallon.

 

[deeda]

I have the Eheim 2262 and am very pleased with its versatility for media options. It is on a 220G heavily stocked Mbuna tank, along with an Eheim 2217 & 2 AC110's. The Eheim Classics really do let you set them up for whatever media you want to use, so I do like this feature. They are easy to clean and despite the assembly and maintenance instructions, I am very satisfied with these filters.

The only other brand canister I have ever owned is the Magnum 350, which I didn't care for. It was noisy and a pain to clean.

Regarding the different filter manufacturers, I'm sure they have designed their filters to perform properly when using the recommended media as suggested in the manual. I feel that different media can be substituted as long as it is 'stacked' in a similar manner as per instructions. Otherwise, you won't be getting the same benefit of the combination of mechanical & biological filtration.

For me, I use Eheim EHFImech as the bottom layer in all my filters to act as a dirt trap or coarse media. Then the blue pads or comparable for medium filtration. Then comes the EhfiSubstrat Pro or similar bio media. I always use the white fine pads or floss/polyfil as the final fine media.

I'm not really sold on using Scrubbies in a canister filter. I think they may be better suited to wet/dry or sump applications along with Bio-Balls & other similar materials. From the reading I've done, I think that the bio media should be set up so that it is in a relatively 'clean' area of the water flow. This allows the beneficial bacteria to find a good home to thrive in without being buried in solids & detritus from the tank. By having good mechanical filtration before the bio media, this would be accomplished.

Of course, this is just my opinion. Everyone seems to have a favorite filter brand and many are very vociferous in the defense of their brand. A lot of people choose their filter based on either price, style or recommendations on sites such as here, the LFS, or by friends. I decided to choose Eheim after seeing a lot of fish-keepers recommend them for their versatility, efficiency and long life. I know that no-one said buy one because it is more expensive then model ABC. I hate buying anything and then having to replace it or buy parts for it, within a relatively short time.

I've only had my Eheims since 2004. I'm glad I bought them and am satisfied they are worth it. I don't plan on changing brands when I'm in the market for another filter. I am curious how other brands stack up to my Eheims but unless one comes by at a price to good to pass up, Eheim will be my filter of choice.

 

[Squirtle919]

SO WHO WON?!