Electric Blue Jack Dempsey hybrid or not?

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You can't make the statement breeding with wild bjd doesn't produce ebjd as you would have to know if the fish carried the recessive gene and if the gene was prevalent in the population the wild fish was sourced
 
Most people asking the question, including the OP of this discussion, want something definitive - to which unfortunately there isn't.
 
ok well in that case the odds are heavily in favour of recessive colour version rather than recently created hybrid in the hobby I'd say
 
Yeah, I got that from your initial post. But that's not what the OP asked ....
 
myster619 said:
From what I understand that these are a mutated version of the original Jack Dempsey. They are not naturally occurring although they do breed to produce normal looking JDs hence they are not hybrids. Although I have heard reports that experts such as Juan Miguel and Rusty Wessels have said that they are a hybrid descending from Cuban cichlids.

Is there a scientific paper article or evidence that puts an end to this debate?
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And round & round we go, but to date - there is no scientific proof of either pure, or hybrid.

I have been in this hobby a few odd years, and have seen enough hybrid cichlids in this hobby (many advertised as pure), including many involving color mutations, albino, etc, to understand how easy the process is - to which at some point the fish breed 99.9% pure. The hybrid genes eventually become so far buried that even a geneticist could spend years attempting to unravel the truth.

For anyone interested, an old thread from 2007 posted on a molecular biology forum, that covers most of what & what not was done via DNA with this fish.

http://molecularbiology.forums.biotechniques.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18616

At the end of the day we are still left with more questions, than answers.
 
I'd be interested in examples of a fixed colour mutation which has been bred consistently from hybridisation
 
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