That is not correct. Almost all of you BB is in the filter not the water substrate or anywere else. When you clean your filters in tap water that contain chlorine or chloramine you are killing then and the outcome is your tank starts the cycle all over again.benray4fun;3915525; said:I know lots of people do rinse their filter media with tank water only, but I prefer a really clean pad and less bb than a not so clean pad and lots of bb. Remember, your whole tank is a biological system not just the pads...
Emperor vs A/C owners of both only...
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erk419;3915776; said:
I don't know where you guys get your information from and not that I needed proof, but read for yourself to avoid arguing...
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309004&highlight=beneficial+bacteria
erks usually disagreeing with someone wherever he goes. I wash mine off in tape water. Never had an issue or fish die. Good to see someone from ct
I know these threads keep going on and on, but I finally have some experience with AC to add.
I setup 2 AC 70's today, replacing an old Whisper 30-60. So far the 2 AC's together are just as quiet as the 30-60. I like the filtration options on the AC vs standard cartridges. I have another older filter than will be removed once the AC's build up some bb.
My only experience with a biowheel filter was the one that I purchased for a 20 gal. It was very loud, but it was an obvious defect from the manufacturer. I know that its very difficult to produce every filter to perfection, so this will happen from time to time.
I must say that the outlet on the AC does sit higher than my other hob's. So as water evaporates there is a possibility of it getting a little loud, but nothing that a quick top off wont take care of.
I setup 2 AC 70's today, replacing an old Whisper 30-60. So far the 2 AC's together are just as quiet as the 30-60. I like the filtration options on the AC vs standard cartridges. I have another older filter than will be removed once the AC's build up some bb.
My only experience with a biowheel filter was the one that I purchased for a 20 gal. It was very loud, but it was an obvious defect from the manufacturer. I know that its very difficult to produce every filter to perfection, so this will happen from time to time.
I must say that the outlet on the AC does sit higher than my other hob's. So as water evaporates there is a possibility of it getting a little loud, but nothing that a quick top off wont take care of.
I don't disagree with people were ever I go! I simply said its not a good idea to wash filters out in tapwater. I'm not saying that it can kill all the bacteria I'm just saying theres a possibility so why even take the chance when there a bucket of tank water sitting right there thats already treated. An as for the BB being mainly in the filter thats not an opinion thats a fact.irishfan;3916125; said:
I have learned maybe you need to set down and do a little search and read up on were the "majority" of your BB in your tank resides! Yes theres some living on your substrate and some living on your decor and maybe even some living on your glass if you have dead spots in your tank but the "majority" lives in your filter. Bacteria looks for and needs a dark and very oxegen rich area to live they also need to have something to cling to so what better place then your filters media thats why the majority will be found there.benray4fun;3916146; said:erks's just eager to teach, but he has to learn first...
Dude, you're just beg'n for a nose bleed...
you just posted this
then you posted this
you don't need anyone to have a debate cause you're on both sides of the fence...
The fact is bacteria live everywhere in the tank...weather it be aerobic on the sands upper layers or anaerobic in the sands deeper layers
you just posted this
erk419;3915776; said:
then you posted this
erk419;3916184; said:
you don't need anyone to have a debate cause you're on both sides of the fence...
The fact is bacteria live everywhere in the tank...weather it be aerobic on the sands upper layers or anaerobic in the sands deeper layers
Yes I agree to a point that bacteria lives everywere in a tank. I didn't quit word my first post right. But I'm talking about the majority of the bacteria and its a really big majority. The BB does not do good at all in the water because it constantly moving so its in a desprate state to try and find something that it can attach it self to. Inside the tank itself theres very few places that it can attach itself to because the water always moving. So there for if it trys to attach itself to the glass it will eventually get swept away. That why with filter media we use things like sponges and ceramic rings that have pours that the bacteria can go in and won't have to worry about getting swept away. The BB also likes a dark area and a filter is always dark inside. It also needs a lot of Oxygen and the filter is the perfect place for this. I've read quit a few articles on this subject. If you don't believe me do a search and read up on it. Also take out your sand and ornament an test your water the next day. Then put those all back in and take your filter media out and put brand new in then test the next day. I'm not here to argue with you about this I'm just stating the facts.
