eneyone kept croc monitors!

[Juxtaroberto]

Err, Jonny Cichla, have you thought about the ethical aspect of breeding croc monitors? Do you plan to only sell them to people who have the space and ability to house them, and then euthanize the rest? Yes, I know animals are kept in bad conditions all over the world, but this is slightly different. I mean, I hate knowing that those cute little baby iguanas are going to homes where they'll be put in 10 gallon tanks with hot rocks... but even an adult iguana can't do that much damage. You might need a few stitches, but it won't be life threatening. A croc monitor could kill someone.

While I don't think you should keep a croc in the first place, after seeing your thread where you tailed a baby cobra and took its picture simultaneously, you're an adult and will do what you want to do. But breeding them goes beyond just you. It would be bad enough if your croc monitor turned on you, but if the babies turned on other people, they'd be outlawed in a heartbeat. Just something to think about.

 

[A. gigas]

Err, Jonny Cichla, have you thought about the ethical aspect of breeding croc monitors? Do you plan to only sell them to people who have the space and ability to house them, and then euthanize the rest? Yes, I know animals are kept in bad conditions all over the world, but this is slightly different. I mean, I hate knowing that those cute little baby iguanas are going to homes where they'll be put in 10 gallon tanks with hot rocks... but even an adult iguana can't do that much damage. You might need a few stitches, but it won't be life threatening. A croc monitor could kill someone.

While I don't think you should keep a croc in the first place, after seeing your thread where you tailed a baby cobra and took its picture simultaneously, you're an adult and will do what you want to do. But breeding them goes beyond just you. It would be bad enough if your croc monitor turned on you, but if the babies turned on other people, they'd be outlawed in a heartbeat. Just something to think about.

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[chloe]

i dont know alot about this species, but as im also from the UK, id say research for a year or two, as andy said he will put u in to contact with other owners, i think that would b the best way to go. also make sure u have the room set up and ready well before u get the animal home. make sure u got ur temps etc sorted, purely because our weather is so unpredictable, u may need to up the heat etc on our freezing days. just keep an eye out, because if the croc gets upset because of this and its overlooked, it could be a nasty ending.

give up on the breeding idea, i dont mean to be rude but i dont think we have the people over here that are interested, able to care and have the respect for something this dangerous. the babies would prob end up either put down, in a shop show TANK or in a zoo.
also if something was to happen with a large monitor, after what happened to wilbur year before last i dont think our rep community could withstand another hard blow, and all large boids and lizards will b banned.
i think u will need to put serious consideration of others on to your list.
i dont wana lose all my snakes due to someone (not saying u, could be the owner of the babies or any person with another type of potentially life threatening animal) being an idiot.

 

[krichardson]

They learn, the adapt and they're INCREDIBLY smart. My 8' male Croc escaped from his enclosure one time. Made his way to the main level of my house and found a bedroom window, that had a fan in it. He pushed the fan out of the window and was less than 4' from escape (into my neighbors yard) before I wrestled him under a blanket and carried him back to his 15' x 12' x 9' basement enclosure. 4 months later, I let him out of his enclosure and he wandered upstairs. 4 months without being out of his enclosure, without being on the main level of the house, etc...and he went STRAIGHT back to that same window, knowing he'd almost gotten out there.

Now that's impressive

that close up of the eye shows a really scary potential for danger and intelligence, very much looking like a Raptor lol

Agreed.

 

[Mike D]

take out a good insurance policy on your arms and such. that way if one gets ripped off you will at least have some insurance money to make you happy again

 

[ceeej31]

Err, Jonny Cichla, have you thought about the ethical aspect of breeding croc monitors? Do you plan to only sell them to people who have the space and ability to house them, and then euthanize the rest? Yes, I know animals are kept in bad conditions all over the world, but this is slightly different. I mean, I hate knowing that those cute little baby iguanas are going to homes where they'll be put in 10 gallon tanks with hot rocks... but even an adult iguana can't do that much damage. You might need a few stitches, but it won't be life threatening. A croc monitor could kill someone.

While I don't think you should keep a croc in the first place, after seeing your thread where you tailed a baby cobra and took its picture simultaneously, you're an adult and will do what you want to do. But breeding them goes beyond just you. It would be bad enough if your croc monitor turned on you, but if the babies turned on other people, they'd be outlawed in a heartbeat. Just something to think about.

i dont know alot about this species, but as im also from the UK, id say research for a year or two, as andy said he will put u in to contact with other owners, i think that would b the best way to go. also make sure u have the room set up and ready well before u get the animal home. make sure u got ur temps etc sorted, purely because our weather is so unpredictable, u may need to up the heat etc on our freezing days. just keep an eye out, because if the croc gets upset because of this and its overlooked, it could be a nasty ending.

give up on the breeding idea, i dont mean to be rude but i dont think we have the people over here that are interested, able to care and have the respect for something this dangerous. the babies would prob end up either put down, in a shop show TANK or in a zoo.
also if something was to happen with a large monitor, after what happened to wilbur year before last i dont think our rep community could withstand another hard blow, and all large boids and lizards will b banned.
i think u will need to put serious consideration of others on to your list.
i dont wana lose all my snakes due to someone (not saying u, could be the owner of the babies or any person with another type of potentially life threatening animal) being an idiot.

i fully agree with both of these statements

croc monitors aren't just large monitors, they are on a level of their own.

these animals have a level of intelligence that we are only beggining to understand, who knows what is going on in their head?

i know it seems stupid to compare to a fictional movie but keeping anything with that level of intelligence and that kind of power could lead to a jurrasic park like situation in which you could quickly find yourself overwhelmed

 

[kevinfleming21]

these are very interesting animals, but I am not sure that they should be kept in a home environment with other people (neighbors) anywhere close by. seems kinda like owning a tiger or lion in a suburb.

 

[JONNY CICHLA]

Err, Jonny Cichla, have you thought about the ethical aspect of breeding croc monitors? Do you plan to only sell them to people who have the space and ability to house them, and then euthanize the rest? Yes, I know animals are kept in bad conditions all over the world, but this is slightly different. I mean, I hate knowing that those cute little baby iguanas are going to homes where they'll be put in 10 gallon tanks with hot rocks... but even an adult iguana can't do that much damage. You might need a few stitches, but it won't be life threatening. A croc monitor could kill someone.

While I don't think you should keep a croc in the first place, after seeing your thread where you tailed a baby cobra and took its picture simultaneously, you're an adult and will do what you want to do. But breeding them goes beyond just you. It would be bad enough if your croc monitor turned on you, but if the babies turned on other people, they'd be outlawed in a heartbeat. Just something to think about.

Wonderd when the tailing a cobra would pop up again!! in a totally different post!(come on please) in a croc monitor post? Buddy have you kept dwa or croc monitors! As there bean a case of a croc monitor ever killing eneyone??? yes one thinks your wotching to meney movies my friend! (Godzilla maybe) Thanks for your advice on the killer croc monitors!

 

[JONNY CICHLA]

i dont know alot about this species, but as im also from the UK, id say research for a year or two, as andy said he will put u in to contact with other owners, i think that would b the best way to go. also make sure u have the room set up and ready well before u get the animal home. make sure u got ur temps etc sorted, purely because our weather is so unpredictable, u may need to up the heat etc on our freezing days. just keep an eye out, because if the croc gets upset because of this and its overlooked, it could be a nasty ending.

give up on the breeding idea, i dont mean to be rude but i dont think we have the people over here that are interested, able to care and have the respect for something this dangerous. the babies would prob end up either put down, in a shop show TANK or in a zoo.
also if something was to happen with a large monitor, after what happened to wilbur year before last i dont think our rep community could withstand another hard blow, and all large boids and lizards will b banned.
i think u will need to put serious consideration of others on to your list.
i dont wana lose all my snakes due to someone (not saying u, could be the owner of the babies or any person with another type of potentially life threatening animal) being an idiot.

So people breeding big pythons! such as retics and african rocks! wich are more deadly! (also bean cases of deaths by ) not croc monitors!! are not putting the hobby at risk?? also how many people can really keep a full grown 20+ ft and 200+pound snake properly!! So are the breeders of these snakes also in the wrong for breeding and more importantly selling the cute little one"s!
Think you"ed better get on the phone to bob clark and others who" breed these huge snakes! and tell them in your opinion! They should not breed or sell there snakes!! Think they may listen to your opinion chloe!

 

[Juxtaroberto]

Wonderd when the tailing a cobra would pop up again!! in a totally different post!(come on please) in a croc monitor post? Buddy have you kept dwa or croc monitors! As there bean a case of a croc monitor ever killing eneyone??? yes one thinks your wotching to meney movies my friend! (Godzilla maybe) Thanks for your advice on the killer croc monitors!

We're just trying to help. I believe the thing about the cobra is relevant. An analogy: if a judge were deciding what sentence to give a man regarding a crime he had committed, would the judge not first take a look at the man's record? If in all your threads about handling hots you had shown a superb level of caution, then I wouldn't be so worried about you owning a croc monitor. As it stands, I'm scared you'll go into its enclosure, poke it with a stick to wake it up, and start flashing your camera in its face. And of course I've never owned croc monitors, everything I've ever heard of them would not let me sleep at night knowing there was one in the house. I'd probably awake with its jaws clamped on my throat.

So people breeding big pythons! such as retics and african rocks! wich are more deadly! (also bean cases of deaths by ) not croc monitors!! are not putting the hobby at risk?? also how many people can really keep a full grown 20+ ft and 200+pound snake properly!! So are the breeders of these snakes also in the wrong for breeding and more importantly selling the cute little one"s!
Think you"ed better get on the phone to bob clark and others who" breed these huge snakes! and tell them in your opinion! They should not breed or sell there snakes!! Think they may listen to your opinion chloe!

Yes, the snakes can be more dangerous, if they decide to strike, but for the most part they have very mellow attitudes, especially if you work with them. There are precautions that can be taken with snakes which apparently don't matter to a croc monitor, who will ambush you. But you also shouldn't base your philosophy on, "Well, such-and-such person is being unethical, I guess I can be unethical too."

You will probably decide to keep croc monitors, and that is your right. However, if you do decide to try to breed them, I hope you utterly fail. Nothing personal, but the market doesn't need an influx of baby croc monitors. If you want to breed a big monitor, breed water monitors. They're a hundred times mellower than a croc monitor.

And stop being so impervious to advice and criticism. If everyone is saying the same things to you, they probably have a point.