Yeah I know wels is with 1 L ... stupid spell checker changed it, ANYWAY... When you catch a 12 footer... let me know what it weighs and I can show you that I'm not that far offAcheloos;2442549; said:basslover: A wels (only with one "l" btw) of 12-14 feet (3,6-4,2m) would even with comparably slim proportions weigh about 270 (at 12) - 420kg. Weight increases with the cube, and even comparably small differences can have huge effects.