Ever feel like people overly complicate this hobby???

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the people that get crazy with the water testing and cycling never seem to have better looking fish than mine and i only test once a month.

i think if you follow a regular plan theres no need for some of the stuff people do. i guess if you live in an area with horrible tapwater you might have to do a few things prior to or after water changes but if not theres really no need for it.
 
Definitely.

I have never used a chemical in any of my tanks ever, besides aquarium salt. I have never tested any of water params. and I am keeping discus, clown loaches and a few others that some people originally scared me away from. I don't even own a thermometer to know the temps. :nilly:

I don't want to understand water chemistry, because whatever I have been doing has been working for years now. I would be afraid to tell anyone to keep a tank the way I have been for fear that it might not work out for them.

Maybe I have just been lucky up to this point.
 
Damn JD, you take the extreme route. hahaha, no temp, not nothing, F*** it. hahaha. No but I think it's being made way to complicated too. I do normal water changes and just put in the stuff that takes out chlorine and that other crap, feed these little bastards and call it a day.
 
You can make it as simple or as complicated as you want. Case in point, my two good friends in the hobby are into planted tanks. Both have setup a new tank in the last few months. One went the simple route...Eheim canister, good lighting, plant specific substrate, pressurized CO2, etc, while the other wanted no part in that...running ADA EVERYTHING, as well as auto water changer, constant feed to pc and mobile phone of tank parameters, a lighting system that rises and lowers throughout the course of the day to simulate natural sunlight, substrate from Japan, etc. Is there anything wrong with either tank? No! Both look great, but one cost 5-6x as much as the other.
 
ethnics;854742; said:
over complicate? if fish keeping was as easy as keeping a dog, i doubt it would be as fun. and there's no way to OVER complicate fish keeping as its complicated enough as it is.
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Exactly. If I never wanted to face any complications, I wouldn't have taken aquaria as a hobby.

Nor do I see what is wrong with using chemical media (carbon, purigen). It ensures the water quality stays in-check. That is the most essential part of keeping fish alive. Biological filtiration is simply a nitrate factory and it cannot remove other organics; you either need carbon (or other resins), water changes or plants to remove the rest.

The only thing that is wrong, is to change the water chemistry using chemicals (pH down, up, etc.). If you want that, go with RO or DI.
 
sicxspeed;854911; said:
Damn JD, you take the extreme route. hahaha, no temp, not nothing, F*** it. hahaha.
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:ROFL:
 
sicxspeed;854911; said:
Damn JD, you take the extreme route. hahaha, no temp, not nothing, F*** it. hahaha. [\QUOTE]


I've already said my part but same here.. Never lost a fish due to bad water conditions, never drip acclimated anything.. I own one thermometer and many more tanks than 1. Test water temp via hand feeling.
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i don't think overfiltrating is overcomplicating fishkeeping. i think people that constantly check params (a guy at work checks his reef tank 5-8 times a day, another guy that keeps discus checks 4-6 times a day), do 30-50% daily water changes and add chemicals often are overcomplicating it.

i know it sounds strange, but i don't see having multiple types of filtration as overcomplicating fish keeping. having a couple canisters, uv's and a w/d on a big tank just makes sense.
 
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