it a 5' still got alot of room for them to swim.. the king inside is the gar next is pacu who dun seem to care about any law haha...that was sometime ago..i now keep other fishes...collecting on family... eg ATF family and some catfish family hahaPufferpunk;1398316; said:He'll be "touching" them, soon enough! You have all those monsters in a 4' tank? Wow, what are you upgrading to? They must be tiny!